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January 8th, 2021 06:00

Aurora R11, RTX 3080, my review

Got the system 3 days ago.

First impressions; with 1 case fan, 2 case fans if you want to call the top radiator fan on liquid cooling for the CPU a case fan is purely a joke.  

Next up, the ventilation for the RTX for the air to be pushed out of the card, though a metal mesh, then through plastic cut out slats, that doesn't even allow for airflow of the entire length of the video card is a joke. 

Putting two fans on this 10.5" card is joke. I don't know what Dell was thinking (its obviously they weren't). These cards require minimum 3 fans.  

If all you want to do with your Dell is do some lite gaming, buy it, as for some reason, the card manages to run cool enough not to trigger 100% GPU fan. I've only tried a few games on this, like Far Cry new dawn and they seem to run fine without affecting the 100% death fan effect.  

My problem comes in, that if I want to do anything more with my computer like say, some distributed computing, like and anything else, than the fans instantly rev to 100%. The noise is unbearable, unless you have the box in another room.  Even with the side cover off, for much better air distribution, and the GPU temps in the low 60's, the fans never ramp down, it's 30% to 100%. That's the options you have.

I tried to install a bunch of fan controllers, and the only one that worked was MSI afterburner, but, even then when setting the fan curve to come on to start ramping up at 55C, I notice it thermal throttling, for some reason even when at 58C. I've come to the conclusion, that this really short card with only 2 fans installed is factory set to ramp up fans when it's being loaded up to 100%. It can only handle so much heat since with no large backplate to soak up and dissipate the heat, the only option is to run the fans at max speed or slow itself down by thermal throttling to not fry itself. Such a nightmare. If you are thinking of using your card for research or playing future games that will load up a 3080 in the future, running the GPU at 100% isn't working out for me.  

So just keep this machine for lite gaming or return it? I bought this for one reason only, for the RTX 3080. I really didn't know it was going to be a custom Dell OEM card that will probably die an early death because it was never designed to be put in such a compact case. It was also not designed for a 2 fan setup. Bad move. In my opinion, I can not recommend this combination to anyone. Unless you need a really small footprint, and aren't going to push your computer to the max.

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January 8th, 2021 07:00

Your gpu shouldn't be thermal throttling until it starts hitting low 80s ... I think 83 degrees but could be wrong on the exact number.

 

Now if your gpu is showing 100% usage in task manager... that is what you want. It shows that the gpu is being fully Utilized before the cpu.

That is actually ideal . Now if your card throttling as in downclocking a lot at temps under the 80s, you have an issue with your gpu

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January 10th, 2021 02:00

Return it and build one you will thank me 100000x over. 

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January 15th, 2021 14:00

I have approx. 10% throttling on my Dell Aurora R10 with RTX 3080 running at a temperature of 46 C 

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February 25th, 2021 21:00

After some research, the issue is not the CPU temps, but the memory temps. You can now see them in HwInfo or GPU-Z. As soon as they hit 110c, the fans revs up to 100% to protect itself. The 3080 Founders Edition has the same issue. A way to fix it would be to had slightly bigger thermal pads on the memory so the backplate can take more of its heat.

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February 26th, 2021 11:00

I have applied custom fan curves and split them up between both GPU fans, giving each fan it's own curve and speed. I run fan #2 500 RPM higher than fan #1.

My Tjunction has never gotten higher than 92 Celsius when the card is fully loaded up for an extended period of time, and normally hoovers around 70-75 during gaming sessions, with the occasional increase to 85 ish due to extended periods of load.

I do think the default fan curve is not sufficient for proper cooling, and you might want to try playing around with that before taking a +$1,000 dollar card apart to try and improve the thermal properties.

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February 26th, 2021 11:00

I am interested, what's the Speed in Mhz when it has dropped 10%?

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February 26th, 2021 12:00

If your a serious gamer then I would highly recommend you send it back ASAP. I tried running iracing at max setting and had great fps (280). But that only lasted about 2 weeks. It started shutting down after 30 mins of play and increased to where it would only last 2 mins. My solution while I wait for a new card from Dell it to have the side cover off and a household fan blasting at high speed directly at the GPU. With settings at lowest setting I can game, but the heat still gets to 72c. My guess is the new card wont be any different and wont last either. I have ordered 3 corsair ml pro fans to install. One for pull at the bottom and two stacked up top in a pull push fashion. Im not holding my breath that it will work though. And, after the 30 day cut off it will be like moving heaven and earth to get a return authorized.

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February 26th, 2021 12:00

72 should not shut the card down. In fact, it should down clock when it get's hot, not shut down. But 72 is honestly not bad temperature to have during an intensive gaming session.

Are you sure there's no other reason why it's doing that? Mine does not exhibit that behavior.

 

I have been playing for 3 months on my R10 RTX3080, with zero issues. It has never crashed or shut down unexpectedly, or overheated or anything like that.

 

Hopefully your replacement card provides a better experience.

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March 1st, 2021 00:00

+1

"I have been playing for 3 months on my R10 RTX3080, with zero issues. It has never crashed or shut down unexpectedly, or overheated or anything like that."

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March 1st, 2021 05:00

The fan curve won't fix the overheating memory, or barely. It seems like the memory chips is not even connected to the fin stack.if you are doing very memory intensive tasks, like the person in the thread started, or mining, it's not gonna be enough. Just playing games, nothing crazy, the memory is around 100c, which is 5 degrees higher than the recommended temps, and 10 degrees under throttling. At this temp, the core is at a very confortable 50-60c. There is an issue with the design.

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March 1st, 2021 05:00

Have you tried using msi afterburner in manual mode for your fans. I don’t use fan curves. When I start playing I’ll set the fan to 60% then hit apply. The gpu fan will be not throttle. Stays at 60% while gaming. Don’t use auto fan either.

maybe that will help maybe not.

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March 11th, 2021 06:00

100% this case has huge issues! For noise I would highliy recommend upgrading to the ML-120 PROs from Corsair. I got the RGB three pack, even though it is wasted in this case, but it allowed me to change the front fan, and do a push pull configuration on the stock rad. You actually get noticeable RGB spill from the top if you care about that.

For the rest of the heating issues, I have the side panel off, and the PSU arm slightly swung out. I placed the case where that is not in view, so no issues. Since then I have had much much better temps. Mt RTX3080 never goes past mid 60s. If anything the CPU will slowly get hotter over longer gaming sessions, but still within the 70s. 

In the end, I am going to mobo upgrade, and case swap. My parts are going into a Lian-Li 011D. Not ideal or possible for everyone, but definitely the case and sub-par mobo in the Aurora need to go!

Cheers and good luck!

March 12th, 2021 04:00

Here's my experience and it is better than the OP.  Perhaps the 3080 card from the OP is in the batch that had the bad resistors that caused the cards to overheat (lots of posts on that and how it was solved by Dell but not before a batch of cards had been installed that subsequently overheated even with light use).

My setup: R11, i9 10900kf, 3090, 64gb, ssd

I have run it for up to several hours at a time on numerous occasions with Microsoft Flight Simulator, 4k ultra/high settings with GPU usage of 80-95% constantly and CPU usage of 25%-75% (it varies in that sim)...with the AWCC fan profile set to Performance so it's 50% on the stock fans and the GPU fan is controlled by the nVidia hardware profile with no edit by me although I do monitor things using MSI Afterburner to record all the usage and temps.  Yes, it's loud but that's the fans Dell uses, they move a lot of air but are loud for sure.  The 2-fan case design doesn't help and needs to be remedied for sure in the future.

Idle temps for me of the CPU and GPU are ~35C and peak temps while running the sim are 80C on the CPU and low 70s on the GPU.  That's acceptable to me given how bad the R11 case design is for the hardware.  I've seem similar hardware in many other aftermarket or custom cases with temps ~10C lower on average due to more fans and better openings, but for me I don't have the skill to move it all over to a new case with a new MOBO, power supply, etc.  I would have bought one of those custom rigs if they were even available but couldn't find one.

The temps you are seeing on the 3080 seem too high for the usage you have and it seems worth a Support ticket complaint to stress test the GPU so they have that logged on their end as part of refund/return.  Or course they have long lead times for a new GPU and I've seen others with those early 3080s waiting for a long time to get a replacement GPU from Dell.  Sorry man, that's terrible to have to deal with especially when parts are already hard to come by even at inflated crazy prices everywhere.  Maybe Dell would do it right and refund the whole machine and let you order a new one, I think the lead times there are about 30 days now from it looks like.

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March 31st, 2021 08:00

Theres benchmarks of r10 Alienware 3080 with r5800x gaming at 65c cpu and 67c on the GPU.

 

Using Noctua 12-25 pwms using a push/pull config (one attached to top.of rad and one attached to bottom) on the cpu cooler radiator and then Adding another noctua for the front intake.

Drops the temps down from mid 80s to 60s on both CPU and GPU and then 45ish at an idle.

I've been running through Reddit and dell community and YouTube for 10 days straight at work a few hours a day and have found all the reports to coincide that the case runs whisper quiet and extremely cool with this simple configuration and 3 fans totaling around 70 bucks.

And no crazy settings or fan speeds or any of that BS. literally jsut changing out 3 fans.

Just some food for thought. Theres honestly 50 posts between here and redit of that working

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March 31st, 2021 08:00

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  • From what I've read from COUNTLESS users the push/ pull config in the Alienware OEM liquid cooler fits with the Noctua 12-25 120mm fans or the corsair pro 120mm fans.
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  • 2 fans attached to a rad in Push/pull config increase air flow DRAMATICALLY because there is zero resistance from the fins if the radiator giving you much more CFM and airflow and less resistance.

 

It's 100% doable you just gotta be creative and don't give up. 65cemps can be achieved with 3 fans in an Alienware case or 65c can be achieved in a massive case with 8 fans like my bros.

It's not the size of the case or the amount of fans it's how much CFM you can efficiently move thru an area.

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