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December 23rd, 2021 08:00

Aurora R13, Ram clock speed above 4400

Since the Dell alderlake systems are under clocking (4000-4400) ram below the base DDR5 speed of 4800. If we put in Ram that is above that speed will System also under clock them? Will we also have a way to utilize ram at their correct speed?

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December 23rd, 2021 08:00

Then that is unfortunate

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December 23rd, 2021 08:00

do we know if Dell will ever support XMP3 so that these ram can utilize their true turbo speeds?

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December 23rd, 2021 08:00

The specs here list 4400 as the maximum clock speed so yes if you install 4800 it will in all likelihood be clocked down to 4400. This web page has more information on 4800 and 4400.

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December 23rd, 2021 09:00

there's no turbo speed and there's no XMP profile on the RAM, they aren't downclocking the ram either. DDR5 goes as low as 3200, anything under 4800 is considered energy saving per SK Hynix. Throw higher speed ram in their and in all likelihood it won't post just like all previous Gen Auroras trying to run higher speed, you either get lucky or you don't. The board can only support certain DIM voltages and timings before it refuses to boot

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December 23rd, 2021 13:00

I tend to agree with that. They will stick to the OEM design, as that is what they have been doing with past generations.

You will likely encounter the same issues with aftermarket RAM, or aftermarket fans, or aftermarket cooling solutions as with previous generations.

We will have to see how true that statement is that this is more upgradable than the previous versions, when we see reports coming in from users who have upgraded their R13.

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January 13th, 2022 17:00

Isn't XMP3 officially supported by intel? why do dell pick and choose the lowest spec and stick to it ?  what do they lose by allowing higher speed ram to run ?

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January 13th, 2022 21:00

The Sticks are actually DDR5-4800 sticks despite what others in chat have said.

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January 13th, 2022 21:00

technically speaking its not the lowest speed  but Dell does downclock the memory, even on the DDR4 builds they have always downclocked memory speed

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January 14th, 2022 03:00

Likely by design. The higher the memory frequency, the more noise you get on the traces of that motherboard section. 

The boards that support higher speeds, usually cost a premium because of the extra design features to isolate the traces and minimize the noise.

So likely the design of the board is the limiting factor.

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January 22nd, 2022 21:00

Yes, but they run at a maximum of 4400

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January 22nd, 2022 23:00

its purposely underclocked, just like in previous models even through ddr4 generations. Same as the DDR4 3200 downclocked to 29xx speed. IN DIY builds the default ram speed that system first loads the ram is usually significantly lower then speed on the ram. The thing is the built in PMC chips on the ram is what enabled them to be higher speeds, its part of the selling point of DDR5, that and built in EEC that doesn't need a Xeon cpu to activate.

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February 21st, 2022 07:00

confirmed with the support and engineers, they do not plan on unlocking xmp. i have a 6000hz 32gb kit and its downclocked to 4400 

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February 21st, 2022 08:00

not exactly ddr5 manages power itself doesnt need the motherboard to regulate it 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W500SWmp-qE&t=3s&ab_channel=TechteamGB  it's supposed to solve the noise problem ... hence why it's surprising that they didn't support xmp3

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February 21st, 2022 10:00

That is unfortunate. Good thing the R13 is a premium gaming machine.

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February 21st, 2022 16:00

That isn't correct ether, the engineering decisions on reducing the speed thus the performance of the ram was the result of cost cutting given the main board for the r13/r14 is the same board the only difference is some of its modular parts are different( such as the board chipset and ram slots). These decisions are what is causing a lot of the technical issues on these systems right now, defending them does not solve the problem and should be called out.

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