Not sure what your looking for exactly. But in this case. The temps used to be 80c. As you can see here they are around 70c. (for the video card)
Case temps were around 50c with r8. And now are at 40c... The intake system seems to be working like a charm. The way its vented allows are to travel faster over / around the front casing before making it to the fans. Im not a scientist. but. That design might be making the air particles more dense, with that air foil design.
Thanks for the screen shots. I wanted to see if there was an ambient air temperature case sensor in the new R9. It seems there are thermal probes by the top and front fan inlets in the new R9. This doesn't exist in the R7 (at least as far as the R7's version of AWCC goes). The only thing the R7 reports are CPU, HD, PCI, and GPU temps. It does show fan RPM for top, front, and GPU fans though.
BTW, why's your RAM only running at 2400MHz? I thought you opted for the 2933MHz XMP variety?
Just seems odd to me because that means your base clock is only running at 1200 MHz instead of 1333 MHz.
On my R7, if XMP is off it simply defaults to 2666 which is the base speed of the HyperX modules currently installed. Turning it on brings it up to the rated 2933 MHz. Unless they sent you the wrong RAM, perhaps something needs to be adjusted in your BIOS.
It would be interesting to get more information on these Alien probes, and their exact location. I don't understand how the front fan, which is pulling in fresh, outside air, could be the same temperature as the top fan, which is exhausting hot case air through the CPU radiator. The 37C top fan temp seems reasonable, with the GPU cooking at 72C, but the front fan, which is pulling in 22C ambient room air, seems like it should be much cooler. Perhaps those are placebo readouts?
Indeed it would. I had similar thoughts when I saw the screen shot. I can understand 37c measured at the exhaust vent for the CPU radiator, but not 37C at the input vent for the front fan.
I guess there's no prize in guessing how we arrived at this point of second guessing the numbers coming from AWCC or any piece of Dell software/ hardware.
Honestly, a 10C drop is questionnable considering the interior chassis is practically the same from the R6 and up. Having an accurate methodology in measuring those case temperatures would go a long way in actually validating Alienware's claim of "vastly improved cooling." Until then, it's just marketing hype.
Yeah, I can't said I haven't been tempted to code something like this before:
I’m not sure how they calculate the temperatures. But what I do know is that they are cooler temps than the r8, by a large margin.
How do you know that though if we can't determine the validity of what AWCC is outputting?
The only way to know for sure is if there are independent ambient case temperature probes that you know are measuring the actual air temp inside the case.
I'm not trying to diminish your enjoyment of a new machine here; just my curiosity is getting the better of me. Honestly, a 10C drop is questionable considering the interior chassis is practically the same from the R6 and up. That same chassis still has the same interior cubic dimensions and potential airflow restrictions. Ever heard that phrase, "lipstick on a pig"?
On the other hand, having an accurate methodology in place for measuring those case temperatures would go a long way in actually validating Alienware's claim of "vastly improved cooling." Until then, it may just be marketing hype.
It'd be good to get a baseline measurement first before doing any mods or overclocking. If I were you, I'd run Cinebench R20 CPU only on a loop. Also, run the UNIGINE benchmark for GPU on a loop as well. That way you'll get to ramp up both GPU and CPU consistently. Measure your temps. Afterwards, install that additional front fan and run the same exact benchmark methodology again. That way you'll know exactly what's doing what.
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Heres some photos.
Not sure what your looking for exactly. But in this case. The temps used to be 80c. As you can see here they are around 70c. (for the video card)
Case temps were around 50c with r8. And now are at 40c... The intake system seems to be working like a charm. The way its vented allows are to travel faster over / around the front casing before making it to the fans. Im not a scientist. but. That design might be making the air particles more dense, with that air foil design.
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Thanks for the screen shots. I wanted to see if there was an ambient air temperature case sensor in the new R9. It seems there are thermal probes by the top and front fan inlets in the new R9. This doesn't exist in the R7 (at least as far as the R7's version of AWCC goes). The only thing the R7 reports are CPU, HD, PCI, and GPU temps. It does show fan RPM for top, front, and GPU fans though.
BTW, why's your RAM only running at 2400MHz? I thought you opted for the 2933MHz XMP variety?
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October 4th, 2019 07:00
Now you've done it @amstel78.
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I have 2666 ram in my r9.
And for some reason it allows me to over clock. Which I wasn’t allowed to do on my r8.
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Do you have to turn on XMP to get to 2666?
Just seems odd to me because that means your base clock is only running at 1200 MHz instead of 1333 MHz.
On my R7, if XMP is off it simply defaults to 2666 which is the base speed of the HyperX modules currently installed. Turning it on brings it up to the rated 2933 MHz. Unless they sent you the wrong RAM, perhaps something needs to be adjusted in your BIOS.
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@Anonymous
Indeed it would. I had similar thoughts when I saw the screen shot. I can understand 37c measured at the exhaust vent for the CPU radiator, but not 37C at the input vent for the front fan.
The mystery deepens...
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I just did some investigating.
The only way to get my ram to 2666 is to make an OC profile and enable ram overclock..
Shouldn't the ram already be at 2666, since that’s what I ordered?
I cannot even get the ram to 2666 when OC is inactive. I’ll have to call Dell once again and check on this additional issue.
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I’m not sure how they calculate the temperatures.
But what I do know is that they are cooler temps than the r8, by a large margin.
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I guess there's no prize in guessing how we arrived at this point of second guessing the numbers coming from AWCC or any piece of Dell software/ hardware.
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Yeah, I can't said I haven't been tempted to code something like this before:
if (fail==true) {echo "PASS"}
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How do you know that though if we can't determine the validity of what AWCC is outputting?
The only way to know for sure is if there are independent ambient case temperature probes that you know are measuring the actual air temp inside the case.
I'm not trying to diminish your enjoyment of a new machine here; just my curiosity is getting the better of me. Honestly, a 10C drop is questionable considering the interior chassis is practically the same from the R6 and up. That same chassis still has the same interior cubic dimensions and potential airflow restrictions. Ever heard that phrase, "lipstick on a pig"?
On the other hand, having an accurate methodology in place for measuring those case temperatures would go a long way in actually validating Alienware's claim of "vastly improved cooling." Until then, it may just be marketing hype.
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The extra front intake fan that I have installed is where the original 3.5 HDD is located.
When I receive my replacement r9. I will run the same game, without the extra intake fan.
If I can get it running correctly I’ll keep it, and return my old one.
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I will do exactly that once it’s received. And I’ll report back with the results.
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@Bmwpower603
It'd be good to get a baseline measurement first before doing any mods or overclocking. If I were you, I'd run Cinebench R20 CPU only on a loop. Also, run the UNIGINE benchmark for GPU on a loop as well. That way you'll get to ramp up both GPU and CPU consistently. Measure your temps. Afterwards, install that additional front fan and run the same exact benchmark methodology again. That way you'll know exactly what's doing what.
Good luck on the replacement!