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June 15th, 2013 09:00
Alienware M17x R4 Windows 8 INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE after windows update
Hi There,
I sincerely hope you can help. I've rebuilt this bugger a number of times and I still get the same issue.
I've just recently purchased an Alienware M17X R4 and LOVE IT. However I can't seem to upgrade the thing to Windows 8 pro.
I've done a clean install of Win 8 pro using various guides on the dell community & support site using the recommended drivers.
Now here's the funny thing..
When I do a clean install with the recommended drivers it works all the time. The OSD works with all the buttons etc. No issues..
Note that I'm not using the standard Alienware AMD drivers for my GPU as I just go direct to catalyst 13.6 beta but I'm not sure if that effects it.
No issues until I run windows update to bring it up to speed with all the latest fixes.
After the reboot for the update, it BSODs and gives me an INACCESSIBLE_BOOT_DEVICE.
I've done with with both dual boot (with windows 7) and single boot (W8 only) and I get the same problem.
Always after the update.
Now when it BSODS, I can get into the recovery console (after Shift-F8) a number of times and I can run Windows 7 and see the W8 partition no problems.
So the machine itself and it's hardware is FINE as I'm running it now in W7 Mode.
Has anyone encountered this problem? I've made backups so I can go back to pre-updated windows 8 and try solutions.
Hope you can help.
Thanks



sdfonechan
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June 18th, 2013 12:00
Thanks for the advice.
It looks like it was an incompatibility between the Catalyst 13.6 beta (and 13.4 release) drivers from the AMD site with the AMD WDDM 1.2 driver. Installing the 9.002 driver from dell does fix stuff but I'm assuming I can't benefit from the newer release ones on the AMD site. Oh well..
The 13.4 works fine UNTIL you install the WDDM which then gives you the INACCESSBLE_BOOT_DEVICE upon reboot. However without the WDDM driver it works well until you run the metro apps (sorry, I'm not sure what they're called now), then you start getting weird artifacts.
with regards to my Disk 0 I've got 4 partitions.
1) the OEM Partition
2) The System Reserved Partition (which I'm assuming is the boot partition)
3) Windows 7 System Partition
4) Windows 8 Partition
You've actually answered one of the questions I was going to ask you. I have RST installed and I am running RAID but I think that's just because I followed the installation instructions on the dell community site for layering the drivers. I have no need to run RAID since I'm just running the 2 drives as 2 seperate drives. I don't need RAID to span or mirror or anything. I'm assuming RST is only useful IF you plan to use RAID so I might uninstall RST and switch to AHCI. I *MAY* need to reinstall but what's one more time eh?
BTW. I do use the default Windows Imaging software but instead of Acronis I use Paradox. Between Acronis, Paradox and Shadowprotect the seemed to be the market leaders. I know that Acronis has cloud backup but I have enough spare drives lying about to not need it.
Tesla1856
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June 15th, 2013 14:00
Try turning off Windows-8 Fast Startup.
www.eightforums.com/.../6320-fast-startup-turn-off-windows-8-a.html
If doing a Dual-Boot. Win-7 must be installed first. Check BCD with EasyBCD.
sdfonechan
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June 16th, 2013 02:00
Thanks for that.
Didn't work. I refreshed the win 8 partition back to the pre-updated state and turned off fast boot. No joy. Still did the same thing.
The EasyBCD thing was a good idea though but didn't reveal much.
I'm assuming with EasyBCD, It needs to run on the "primary" partition? In this case the W8 partition?
Because when I run it on there, it shows me the BCD information but when I run it on the W7 parition it says it can't find the Boot Config store.
I've even tried rebuilding the BCD but no job..
I think I'm on the right path though. ONE of the updates that W8 seems to be corrupting the BCD.
One of the sites I've found seems to elude to the fact that there is a fix..
http://www.qliktips.com/2012/11/fix-windows-8-boot-issue.html
However, it's a slow and painful process. I may even start installing the updates 1 by one to see which one it is..
Thankfully the W7 partition seems uneffected so I'm at least able to game..
Tesla1856
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June 16th, 2013 11:00
1. I've never seen that. I usually run it from where-ever. Current laptop config is XP32/Win7-64/Win8-64 ... and I run it from Win7.
2. How exactly did this machine get built-up? What order were OSes installed and to what partitions? What partitions do you have currently? Is this system UEFI based?
sdfonechan
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June 16th, 2013 11:00
All Fresh installs. I installed Win 7 first so I have a stable platform to work on. Drive 0 was split in to 2 major partitions (not counting the win7 boot part and Dell's OEM partition of course) . The I installed Win 8 in the unassigned partition. Granted after installing it, I blindly selected all of the updates.
I'm running 2x1TB HDD drives on UEFI legacy mode. Since I'm running ONLY winOS with no SSDs I'm assuming UEFI Secure boot partition might just be useless in my case (correct me if I'm wrong). There is NO raid config as I'm running the 2 drives as 2 separate drives.
If you can advise me on a better / more efficient set up, I'd be a happier man.
However, I *THINK* I've found the culprit. I've been batch installing updates to make sure that certain updates take before uninstalling the next batch and I've noticed that one of the updates is an "Intel Mobile Express Chipset SATA RAID controller update" that comes from the windows update feature. THAT update MAY be causing the boot corruption issue. I've been avoiding it so far and the system seems stable.
Any advice you have would be most appreciated.
Tesla1856
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June 16th, 2013 12:00
sdfonechan
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June 16th, 2013 12:00
oh boy was I wrong.
I found the culprit. It's the AMD WDDM 1.2 drivers that windows update wants to install are causing the inaccessible_boot_device BSOD.
There *MAY* be an incompatibility with the catalyst 13.6 beta drivers I have installed. I'm going to remove the 13.6 drivers and go back to the windows default and see if the WDDM 1.2 installs properly.
Thank GOD for Windows 7 file recovery tool
Tesla1856
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June 16th, 2013 13:00
For now, I would clean install these:
http://ftp.dell.com/published/Pages/alienware-m17x-r4.html
AMD HD7970M 8.973 Win 7 64
AMD HD7970M 8.973 Win 7 64 driver
AMD HD7970M 9.002 Win 8 64b driver
Win 8 driver for HD7970M
If hybrid video system, also the Intel (last, after the others). I would never run beta drivers (no reason to) and only install amd.com release drivers on a laptop if Dell authorizes it or others have reported it works perfectly.
You should be backing up with partition tool like Acronis or Windows Imaging.
Tesla1856
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June 18th, 2013 16:00
sdfonechan
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June 22nd, 2013 00:00
Don't get me wrong. I love reliability (hell I owned a toyota for a goodly number of years) but when someone buys an Alienware, there are certain itches that need to be scratced. hehe.. So hence me playing around with it. But in the least I know that the standard AMD drivers (9.002 I think) work well enough. It just sucks that you can just blindly install ALL the updates and hope for the best. Maybe the next version ...
Also, re the commercial imaging solution, I did purchase Paragon Hard Disk Suite as there were some reviews which stated Acronis installed some potentially devastating drivers to your HDD
Anyway.. Thanks for the help.
sdfonechan
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June 22nd, 2013 00:00
Oh last question there seems to be one point of contention online. For machines with the 7970.. it's AMD drivers first THEN Intel GFX or the other way around?
Tesla1856
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June 22nd, 2013 12:00
I've heard it works like this:
- Both un-installed
- AMD (reboot) and then Intel (reboot).