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August 16th, 2017 17:00

Direct microphone recording withou latency

I used to have a Dell XPS from 2009 and it was my perfect music production machine it handled all my recording and microphone with no problems I recently bought an HP Envy with one processor chip and it was crap and now I'm thinking about getting the alienware17 I know it's supposed to be a gaming computer but it seems like it has the right specs for recording but the one question I have is does it really mean that I'll be able to record without latency I just figured since people need to chat on their video games that have it pretty good soundcard for music production

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August 17th, 2017 07:00

All interfaces have latency.   Apple and the rest of the industry have abandoned Firewire and Texas instruments chipset.

That leaves USB3 and Thunderbolt.   Current Alienware 17 laptops have Thunderbolt and USB3.  Thunderbolt audio interfaces can be thousands of dollars.

 I recommend a Scarlett 2i2 second gen device for audio interface. The 2nd generation of these interfaces has a lot less latency than the original.

Please note that lower buffer sizes are more demanding on your CPU,
therefore depending on your system spec, buffer size in your DAW session,
sample rate settings and other contributing factors, it is possible that
you may experience latency and audio glitches.  You will want to get the fastest CORE I7 cpu with the maximum amount of Ram.  GPU will not be a factor.
https://us.focusrite.com/get-started/scarlett-2i2-second-gen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBjgNWXUdcI

Focusrite // Scarlett 2nd Gen Super low latency - YouTube 

Amazon.com: Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Second Generation (2nd Gen) 2-in, 2-out USB Audio Interface with 1 Year Free Extended… 

If you are just starting I recommend a bundle that has everything you need in one package.

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August 17th, 2017 11:00

I guess what a wanted to know will one able to use a recording DAW and not have it start glitching out the way it does on my current computer 

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August 17th, 2017 12:00

speedstep wrote:

Current Alienware 17 laptops have Thunderbolt and USB3.  Thunderbolt audio interfaces can be thousands of dollars.

 

On Alienware 17 R4 page, it does say it has a separate Thunderbolt-3 port ... wow! 

5. Thunderbolt™ 3 Port
9. Type-C SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Port

So, while I think the 2 ports look similar (both USB-C) ... they are different (have different abilities).

Thunderbolt 3, USB 3.1, USB Type-C: Making Sense of Connections | B&H Explora 

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August 17th, 2017 13:00

my perfect music production machine it handled all my recording and microphone with no problems

 

I'm thinking about getting the alienware17 I know it's supposed to be a gaming computer but it seems like it has the right specs for recording

Have you looked at Dell Precision Mobile Workstations ? If not gaming (or needing to test games), that's what I would buy for that purpose. HP also makes EliteBooks.

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August 18th, 2017 07:00

USB3 is better because USB3 is faster.  Thunderbolt 3 is the speed king.

This is why the latency is down from 22ms to 1ms.

NEED FOR SPEED

http://proaudioblog.co.uk/2015/09/usb-3-vs-thunderbolt-interfaces/ 

LATENCY

The older 1st Gen USB2 interfaces have many times more latency than thunderbolt. Since Thunderbolt is allowed almost straight access to the CPU, it is able to lower the “round trip” audio latency from about an absolute minimum of about 4.5 ms through USB, to under 1 ms.
https://us.focusrite.com/thunderbolt-audio-interfaces/clarett-8pre

8x Preamps Model the Classic ISA Design
24-bit/192 kHz Audio Resolution
116 dB A/D and 119 dB D/A Dynamic Range
Thunderbolt Latency Under 1 ms

Focusrite // Clarett 8Pre - Recording Seryn - YouTube 

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August 21st, 2017 20:00

Record external mic input without latency - hinges more on the audio interface monitoring option AND its ASIO driver. Thunderbolt 3 is great but few options under $1000. USB 3.0 and USB 3.1 sound cards are future-proof enough. Even a well-supported USB 2.0 sound card with a high quality ADC will do the job for your use.

The simplest option for prosumer podcast streaming is USB microphones with monitoring headphone jack and good driver. I like to have multiple microphone options so I've decided on the slightly more tedious microphone-audio interface-PC option.

I've been researching and hunting for a new HD quality (24 bit 192kHz) audio interface/ USB microphone this last month. This is my shortlist.

Proven - fast USB first

  • M-Audio MTrack 2x2 (USB-C)
  • Zoom UAC-2 (USB 3.0)
  • Behringer U-Phoria UMC204HD (USB 2.0)
  • Audience iD4 and ID14 (USB 2.0)

All have good drivers, though M-Audio doesn't seem to come with a monitoring software, though third party ASIO works well with it too. Zoom has been out for almost 2 years and many swear by its low latency. Audient sound cards are used by many home studio recording musicians and good match with popular DAWs. All come bundled with DAW lite and soft instruments.

There is always the USB 2.0 microphones. Rode NT1 USB, Blue Yeti Pro have proven to work well.

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