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August 25th, 2020 05:00

m17 R3, within a few hours my AWCC stopped working

Hey guys,

Hoping someone can fix this for me.

I received my m17 R3 today and it was all going great (for the first hour!). But then I plugged my matching AW610M mouse in and it then advised me that I needed to reinstall the AWCC (Alienware Command Center). I thought this was a bit odd but assumed it knew what it was doing.

After this I just got this big ball of spinning balls and it just hangs there. A notification pops up saying "Service Running Required - the AWCC is loading please wait 30 seconds. etc etc etc.

Seriously. as this is my third Dell laptop in 2 months (the XPS 15 and 17 I had to send back for various issues) I would love if this just didn't happen.

Anyone have any sure fire way to fix this easily?

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September 14th, 2020 21:00

I was able to get it working eventually but it took a week of the same Tech rep calling me back and trying to work through the issue with me. In the end it turned out there was some issue with AWCC clashing with Microsoft C++. Had to reinstall everything multiple times and in a specific order to get the modules working to the point where they needed to.


Sadly I'm returning the device anyways due to the over heating and thermal issues this has. Don't get me wrong, beautiful machine to work on BUT after having a few bashes in some games and seeing the device thermal throttle (in a cool room, while elevated (cooling pad on and off to test it) as well as a few other methods) I sadly have to accept that these 10th gen chips just run too hot. If they release a 4000 series version I might come back, but this is not acceptable for me in its current state.

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November 25th, 2020 17:00

This did not work for me, but I appreciate the post. I just encountered this ridiculous problem today.

I managed to find a workaround, but it has a drawback.

1. Uninstall all MS Visual and ACC

2. Restart
3. Redownload ACC from the Microsoft Store. This is an older version

4. ACC will be able to function and you can control FX + Fusion. That's a positive.

5. The negative is that every time you restart your computer and open ACC, it will give the "Service running" prompt and you have to Allow it through UAC. You have to do this step every time.

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August 25th, 2020 10:00

Hi @Ruddaga  if your AWCC is working, NEVER, EVER install an AWCC update. You might be lucky and get System Restore to reinstate its working function. Otherwise you will waste an inordinate amount of time trying to get it working. Life is too short for customers to try fix these persistent problems. Your best course of action is to reject this m17 r3 and get your money back asap. 

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August 25th, 2020 13:00

Well that's not ideal..... lol

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September 12th, 2020 13:00

dont upgrade the AWCC?

 

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September 12th, 2020 13:00

do you able to fix AWCC?

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September 12th, 2020 14:00

Hi @Ruddaga 

1. If your AWCC (and OC Controls) is fully functional, do not update. 

2. If you do not need the AWCC (and OC Controls) and it is unstable, delete this troublesome optional application. 

3. If you want AWCC (and OC Controls) on your computer, then try the following:- 

3a. Download the Revo Uninstaller Free application (and when the delete window appears, select delete with Advanced scanning mode setting). Run Revo Uninstaller to see if AWCC (and OC Controls) is listed. If yes, uninstall your AWCC, press Scan and when prompted select and delete all files, you might get a second prompt to select and delete more files, then restart. You have now removed everything associated with the AWCC. (Repeat to uninstall OC Controls)  After restart, you can clean install the AWCC, as if for the first time. 

3b. If the most recent AWCC does not work, install an earlier version. You can get the earlier version by opening your Service Tag Support's page, get AWCC driver information > view full driver details > scroll down and click on Version to select from list of earlier versions. 

3c. Then install the most recent OC Controls so that AWCC Fusion tab works. 

3d. Do not be surprised if AWCC FX tab does not work. (The install AWCC update application requires more work.) 

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September 14th, 2020 12:00

I think he did but I can’t verify so I’d just listen to what other people said for each update and what it did to their computer so you can try it on yours but make sure you create a system restore to go back in case it doesn’t work out.

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September 15th, 2020 03:00

Hi @Ruddaga  agree with your assessment. It's not the fault of laptop providers that Intel cores run normally in an excessively hot configuration. It is clear that Intel acknowledge these problems with their Intel 11th gen cores that have been specifically designed for slim laptops, run cool and consume less power so that battery charge lasts longer. 

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September 15th, 2020 11:00

That’s cool!

Well I remember when older Alienware were not the thinnest but still powerful while keeping the thermals in check.

i don’t understand why people need to change the design of the laptop every couple of years due to someone saying “oh yeah, this is good but it’d be better if it were thinner.” Like come on, you’re putting similar desktop power CPU’s with a super series graphics card in a MacBook thin level of size with what? A vapor chamber and a back exhaust?

thats really not that good but it was just a thing that was sitting on my mind for that long.

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September 18th, 2020 08:00

I have managed to get my 17 r4 with the 6820HK model to 34c on idle when overclocked to 4.3Ghz? I mean under load at max it’ll hit 72c but that’s it.

i can understand what your saying though as I mean no laptop should get hot to the point where it burns your hand using it and if you don’t mind, which area as I think the display area where the alien head is where it’s very hot at on the older m15 and m17 r2.

November 23rd, 2020 21:00

It's been a while since this was posted, but in case this could help anyone else, this solution worked for me permanently and takes about 10 minutes.

I had the same issue on an Aurora R11, which began within about three months after receiving the computer. The symptoms include a large spinning wheel appearing once opened along with everything grayed out, then the Microsoft Windows User Account Control prompt appears, where I select Allow, but nothing changes.

Looking around I found bits of info/tips on this issue from different years etc. and after a little experimenting I found a sequence of steps that permanently resolved this issue:

1) Uninstall Alienware OC Controls

2) Uninstall ALL Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable(s) with years between 2012 and 2015 in the title

3) Uninstall AlienWare Command Center

4) Restart Computer

5) Download and install the latest AlienWare Command Center from Dell Support using your assett tag.

6) Restart as prompted

6) Open Command Center. At this point the OC Controls, including Overclock & Thermal buttons will have the small spinning wheel over them, but lighting FX should be working. If this is the case and you do want OC Controls to function, proceed to step 7, else stop.

7) The Command Center will sense that OC Controls are missing and actually prompt you to allow it. Then it will prompt you to install (this is all in context of Command Center itself). Answer yes to both of these prompts.

This worked for me without issue. I noticed the OC Controls installation is what re-installed the required Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributables that were removed in step 2.

If step 7 doesn't happen to work for you, you may want to try downloading the latest version of  Alienware OC Controls manually by going to Dell support and plugging in your asset tag. From there just install and running Command Center after.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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November 24th, 2020 07:00

Hi @GoauldSystemLord  thank you for sharing update on how to get AWCC working.

We have a 17 R5 Model Cassini 17 MLK preinstalled with Tobii eye tracking and AlienFX hardware which arrived out of the box in dark mode. This is our first Dell laptop and our most expensive. Our new laptop has a one year RTB warranty and this warranty is active. All updates were installed and the OS is currently Feature update to Windows 10 Pro, version 20H2. We installed SupportAssist and Alienware Update. Everything seemed to be working, but we seemingly cannot turn dark mode off. 

We have just worked through your sequence of events in the hope of getting AlienFX to work. Dell Support recommends the AWCC v5.2.97.0 update and Local Admin account was used to download and install at Step 5. The AWCC was opened at Step 6 and has been trying to install for five hours with the following spinning wheel image. 

Screenshot 2020-11-24 091421.jpg

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November 24th, 2020 08:00

Hi @GoauldSystemLord  AWCC did not prompt to install OC Controls. Used Local Admin account to download and install the Dell Support recommended OC Controls v1.3.0.1239. Windows Security complains and thinks it is malware. Clicked on Install driver software anyway on both occasions and then Restarted. The AWCC spinning wheel image reappeared. 

Screenshot 2020-11-21 114149.jpg 

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November 24th, 2020 09:00

Hi @GoauldSystemLord  the built-in administrator account has been used to see if this all powerful account will allow AWCC update to finish installation. AWCC was repaired followed by Restart. However, the same AWCC spinning wheel image appears and installation is never completed. 

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