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September 16th, 2003 19:00

Alert System battery voltage is low

Hi when I boot up the new machine I just bought it has the following  Alert message showing

System Battery Voltage is Low options F1 to continue F2 to review set up

Can anybody advise on what this is about please ?

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August 24th, 2005 04:00

As many in the past messages will tell you...It's not your surge protector or your battery. The problem stems from our computers BIOS. Dell made and error in the computers BIOS when they designed the 8300's. They have tried multiple BIOS updates to where they are now at "Bios update 07". They still have not totally debugged it yet. I still am getting Low Battery warnings to this day! Although, they are not near as often as they once were, they still are an annoyance at start-up.

P.S. I tried all of the other solutions handed out by Dell as well, like clearing the V-RAM. It also did not work! It is the BIOS!

August 24th, 2005 12:00

Then why, after changing out my surge protector, am I NOT getting the message anymore?

Have you tried that one?

August 24th, 2005 12:00

Hi Chuck,

 

Welcome to Dell8300land! If you read from the beginning of this thread you will see that many people including me were not using a surge protector. Likewise clearing the VRAM only stopped the problem for a week or so.  Only removing and reseating the battery seems to have fixed the problem for me. I think it is a complex issue which manifests itself in various ways giving rise to the same symptom. At any rate, it is certainly a fault with the motherboard (and or firmware) or its interaction with other systems components.

Ron

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August 24th, 2005 15:00

 

Hollo again;

Never thought I would post about the 'low battery alert' again.

However after my first adventure 15 months ago I again received the harmless alert.  I watched for several days (and cold boots) but it persisted. I therefore went through the vigorous routine of shuting down my computer and unplugging the power cord.  This time from the back of the computer, (which is easier to reach than my surge protector) for one hour. After I reconnected  and powered up I had 'lost' the alert.   It has been 3 weeks and I see no sign of it.  It will probably reoccur next year again and I will unplug again and post to this thread again.

I presumed unplugging discharges a capacitor of some sort. and resets a switch.

See you again

lckauth

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August 24th, 2005 15:00

I also wrote when I got the infamous low battery voltage message only a couple weeks after I got my 8300.   I received a few very helpful responses from this forum.  I started with the easiest, which was to unplug, and replug the computer and surge protector and haven't had a problem since.  I don't know if it will happen again, but I would just tell everyone, start with the easiest option and work your way thru if it happens again.  Good Luck.  :smileywink:

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August 24th, 2005 22:00

"I still get the warning about once a month. I've done everything except change the battery, but still get the warning. If the frequency increases that will be my next move. I have an 8250."

I wrote that on June 16 of this year and have not had the warning since. The last thing I did was change the surge protector.

delta

Message Edited by delta7000 on 08-24-2005 07:19 PM

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October 12th, 2005 05:00

Here's my experience:


Dimension 8300, brought about 2 years ago. 2 months ago the "System battery voltage is low" popped up. After reading the thread, I tried to bypass my Belkin surge protector and plug the power to a wall outlet. The message disappeared immediately. Then I plugged the power back to the Belkin surge protector. Again, no message. This lasted until about a week ago when I had an unexpected power outage. The "battery low" returned. Today I tried the following:


1. Turned the "battery icon" on in my task bar. Didn't work.


2. Cleared the BIOS event log. Didn't work


3. Plugged the power to a wall outlet. Didn't work.


4. Cleared the NVRAM. Didn't work.


5. Pulled the battery off from the MB. Upon inspection I noticed the negative side (the one facing the MB) was a little foggy, sorta like the bathroom mirror. I cleaned it with 95% alcohol. Reinstall the battery. Magically it worked! Since the uninstall/reinstall was done in less than 5 minutes, all BIOS settings were kept.



I'll update the post if the message is back.




Update:10 days after, no alert so far - 10/22/05.


Message Edited by Tamer_Lu on 10-22-2005 06:07 PM

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December 5th, 2005 01:00

Well heck, me too.  I've just started receiving this message in the past hour.

I admit I haven't read all 19 pages of this tread.  But I have read enough to know what has and hasn't worked (per both Dell support and you guys).  Since this is a very recent issue with me I haven't yet tried any of the fixes -- but I certainly hope just reinstalling the battery fixes the problem.

I think I already lost my BIOS information as, upon the second reboot after I got the 'battery voltage' message, my clock and date info was wrong.  Thus, I seem to have also lost my subscriptions to such time-sensitive programs as my virus program.  (Guess that is another issue I have to figure out and fix.)

As stated, I haven't tried any fixes yet.  Still, I'm left wondering a couple of things:

1) Since this thread was started has Dell updated their information and admitted their liability?

2) What causes this problem to happen?  My Dell is a refurbished 8250 which I've had for about one year.  Prior to this battery message appearing I defragged my hard drive -- twice in a row (with a reboot in between.)

I've never purchased a surge protector from Dell and the one I currently have I've used with several other Dell PCs.  Too, there is no storm - electric or otherwise - in my area at this time.

 

I've Googled this issue and found a ton of posts.  Has Dell dropped the ball on this issue?  If my computer was a car the manufacturer would have mailed me a notice of the problem -- and fixed it for free!

Thanks for listening.

...

Quick follow-up ... after posting this message I immediately rebooted.  Upon doing so I did NOT receive the battery voltage message.  Perhaps the problem fixed itself??  We shall see.

Message Edited by DLee on 12-04-2005 10:01 PM

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December 5th, 2005 09:00

1) no

2) Since your clock and date info is wrong I think replacing the battery should fix the problem. I would do that first. If I remember correctly most of the people in this thread did not have problems with the time or date. I know I didn't. I have not had a problem since switching to a different surge protector (the third one I tried).

Message Edited by delta7000 on 12-05-2005 07:05 PM

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February 4th, 2006 12:00

It seems this problem is solved by disconnecting the power for a period of time...
 
I'm not sure what could be causing this, but it could be the battery is being over charged, the battery is getting under charged or something we just don't know about.
 
People saying replacing the battery works instead of changing over the power supply, this may be, by disconnecting the power for a long period of time and removing the battery pretty much has the same effect, so i would recommend reseating the battery or leaving your computer off overnight.
 
Also your clock is the only thing that needs a permananent power supply, all the bios settings are in the permanent memory of the computer. But the clock is the only thing which needs the battery as it needs a constant power supply to keep counting the seconds. So therefore i'm saying, don't be worried about losing your bios settings, cause you won't.
 
Also a brand spanking new surge protector would not solve this problem better than any other would, this would just once again disconnect the power supply and reconnect the power supply once you plug the computer back in again. All surge protectors do is what they say, protect your computer against surges. Your computer has a PSU (Power supply unit) in it anyway, so it wouldn't be through a voltage drop, if it was it would be on the computer hardware side and not on yours.
 
Just thought i'd say aswell, even though your computer is shut down, your battery is constantly being charged as the computer has a constant power supply to it (It only stops the supply if you unplug the lead).
 
Periphial devices would not involve the batteries power, one again only the clock.
 
Logs should not affect the batteries power as there would be no errors when the computer is offline.
 
BIOS updates and/or motherboard problems may affect the battery. But when you update your bios, you are sort of rebooting so that is similar to the power problem.
 
As far as battery life goes, i've had a pc since '97 and it has never needed replacing.
 
I'm not tech expert, i'm just an electrical apprentice and i'm just trying to think logical here.
 
I work at an office which must have 200+ Dell computers and they started getting these errors, next time i am there i will try the supply cutting method and let you know how i get on.
 
God knows what the problem is, but Dell should really figure it out, they would gain alot more respect and trust. Also whatever it is, you should not have to go inside your computers box to look at the problem, get those people who guranteed your product in the first place to come out and fix it. As someone said, you wouldn't do it with a car if the manufacturer had miscalculated something or the product was made with bad workmanship.

February 5th, 2006 16:00

For the last long while (2 months and a bit), I've been getting the alert message every time I start up my Dim. 8300.  Since this wasn't my first (or second or third etc.) encounter with the glitch, I had decided to adopt a wait-and-see approach out of curiosity.  Unlike the previous occurences, the problem didn't just (seem to) go away by (seemingly) itself, setting a new record (for me) for consecutive "Alert! System battery voltage is low." messages...
 
Today, after reading the previous post, I decided to try a little experiment.  I unplugged the power cord from my Dim. 8300 (powered off at the time, of course).  With the computer still unplugged, I then pressed the power button (a step I always do before opening the case, as per DELL's instructions re: "Opening the Computer Cover" -> after unplugging the computer, "press the power button to ground the system board").  I then plugged the computer back in and turned it on--presto, the error message was gone.  All of this took less than a minute...
 
I'm not saying that it was necessary to press the power button of the unplugged computer to 'fix' the problem (I have no idea...)... it's just something I decided to do, this time.  I did not need to leave my computer unplugged for an extended period of time.

Message Edited by Pig In A Blanket on 02-05-2006 01:14 PM

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February 15th, 2006 22:00

This was my observation on 10-24-2004 (see p 14). Deano1985 is correct. Cut the power for a while and the problem usually, not always, resolves. This should be the first resolution attempt before trying more frustrating and expense related efforts.

By the way, my 8300 has not had the problem recur since I resolved it 10/2004.

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March 29th, 2006 05:00

Just to further support several previous posts ...

I've had a Dell Dimension 9150 for about 6 weeks. I just started getting the following error message 2 days ago:

Alert! System battery voltage is low.
Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility

The message was appearing everytime I powered up, during the POST.
This evening I simply turned off the PC, disconnected the power plug at the back (for about a minute) reconnected the power and turned the PC back on. The message no longer appears, so a brief power disconnection appears to "resolve" the problem. I still don't know why it happened in the first place though. I am running all my home office equipment through several power surge strips and the critical components through 2 UPS units (including 3 PCs, 2 monitors, VCR, TV, routers, switches, PDAs, MP3 players, cameras etc.)

Message Edited by Rarb on 03-29-2006 01:35 AM

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May 26th, 2006 19:00

I've got a Dell 8300 and a brand new XPS 600 both giving me the low battery message I reset the bios in both of them, then plugged them into the wall plug instead of my UPS. The message went away for now.
 
I plugged my 8300 back into the UPS and the message hasn't reappeared yet. The XPS 600 is plugged into the wall for now.
 
I will be looking for a class action attorney due to that fact that I've only owned my XPS for a week, if they are knowingly selling this defective bios then they may be in trouble.

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May 30th, 2006 16:00

Ok after a little song and dance routine with CS they're sending a new battery. I will let you know what happens.
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