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December 8th, 2002 13:00
Boot record Virus
Greetings,
I just got an alert from Norton that my boot record may have virus. --No, I never made an emergency boot record. I am planning on partitioning and formatting my drive.
In a computer hardware class I took some time ago, the instructor stated that if one had a virus in the boot record the only way it could be truly deleted is to type:
FDISK /MBR (that is: FDISK, a space,/MBR)
He stated that just doing an FDISK & then a FORMAT command will not erase the virus.
Any opinions? Must one, when formatting an infected boot record, perform an FDISK /MBR in addition to the FDISK FORMAT?
Thanks,
Pat
I just got an alert from Norton that my boot record may have virus. --No, I never made an emergency boot record. I am planning on partitioning and formatting my drive.
In a computer hardware class I took some time ago, the instructor stated that if one had a virus in the boot record the only way it could be truly deleted is to type:
FDISK /MBR (that is: FDISK, a space,/MBR)
He stated that just doing an FDISK & then a FORMAT command will not erase the virus.
Any opinions? Must one, when formatting an infected boot record, perform an FDISK /MBR in addition to the FDISK FORMAT?
Thanks,
Pat
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ceri sheeran
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December 8th, 2002 14:00
Hi,
FDISK /MBR is an undocumented switch within FDISK. All it does is replaces the copy of the partition record at the start of the hard disk with a copy of the second, normally hidden, copy of the Master Boot Record at the end of the hard disk.
To clear any possibility of a boot sector virus you need to run the debug utility or run the clean1k utility from the Dell resource CD's.
Alternatively one I read recently is to install the hard disk in an Apple mac and then re-install it in a PC. The Mac setup renders the hard disk completely clean as far as a PC is concerned.
hth
Ceri
jp1114
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December 8th, 2002 15:00
Thanks Ceri for the explanation.
I always thought that FDISK /MBR erased whatever was in the boot record; thanks to you, now I know that it simply replaces the curren MBR with the hidden MBR... which could also be infected.
I usually format my hard drive every semester --I am studying multimedia and by the end of the semester I have tons of files, trial softwares installed, junk, and find it easier to clean everything up by either formtting the drive and doing a full install or loading the OS from my ghosted hard drive. Now I am wondering if the ghosted hard drive could possibly also have a virus....)
I am not familiar with the clean1K utility on the Dell resouce CD. I presume there is the clean1K utility on all Dell resounce CDs (I have a Dell Pentium 4100)? Does it erase/eliminate all the possible viruses (along with everything else) in both the MBR and the hidden MBR?
I just found the Dell web page on cleanK1 and will read the instructions. Thanks for the cleanK1 suggestion.
Question 1: If I use the cleanK1, am I assured that all viruses have been erased from my computer?
Question 2: Can this software be used also on other brand computers or does it recognize when a computer is not a Dell and does not allow an install?
Thanks a zillion,
Pat
fredha
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December 8th, 2002 17:00
You should have the Clean 1K utility on your Resource CD. Its more involved but it does a better job by erasing the first part of the HD where the master boot record is stored.
http://support.dell.com/us/en/kb/document.asp?DN=1026413
ceri sheeran
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December 8th, 2002 17:00
Pat,
Hi,
The Clean1k is on Resource CD 1 on the disks that came with my D4100
It is located at F:\HDDUTIL\CLEAN\
1 From the write ups & web sites I've read on the Clean 1k I believe all boot sector virus's would be removed. The hard drive is returned to an unpartitioned condition exactly as it came out of the factory
2 I expect the utility would work on any hard disk on any p.c. as Dell supply a range of make hard disks.
The question arises about your antin virus policy. Do you have an up to date program with current signature / DAT files. If not you can scan on-line
here
http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp
or here
http://security3.norton.com/ssc/home.asp?j=1&langid=ie&venid=sym&plfid=20&pkj=BGWRPJUIYCZRWEJGSSK
hth
Ceri
jp1114
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December 9th, 2002 12:00
Thanks for your replies! I will use the housecall antivirus and then the Clean K1.
Once again, all you help is most appreciated.
Have a wonderful week. Merry Xmas,
Pat
jp1114
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December 12th, 2002 01:00
Hi Ceri,
Since my Anti-Virus was not up to date, I ran the http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp software and found out that I had no virus after all...
I presume that http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp checks everything and everywhere --including the boot sectors.
Next week, I will wipe everything off with the Clean1k and reinstall everything... but this time I will install Windows XP Pro instead of Windows ME.
Thanks again for all your help!
Pat