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August 24th, 2002 22:00

CPU Temperature

Hi there,

I've been worried about the temperatures inside my comp. It's frozen mid-program a few times, and even restarted by itself at times. I've heard talk that this can be a symptom of the CPU getting too hot. Well, I tried to download some freeware temperature monitor programs to show me how hot things are running, but no temperatures are reported. The same programs work fine on my two home-made machines with same the OS. Are there no temperature sensors in my Dell Dimension 8100?

Between the heat of Southern California, the long hours my comp is on, the P4 1.5 chip, and the Geforce3 vid card, I'd say there's some potential for serious heat problems.

How can I find out the temperatures inside?

Thanks,
James Seaman.


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August 24th, 2002 22:00

Ack, no temp sensors? Hmmm, seems like I've finally found my first flaw with Dell comps.

Any suggestions on how to keep things cool inside, then? Any suggestions how I can avoid frying my system due to overheating?

Thanks again,
James.


579 Posts

August 24th, 2002 22:00

Dell has no temp sensors.

83 Posts

August 24th, 2002 23:00

short term, take the case cover off......long term, put some more fans (maybe drilling a hole in the side of the case w/ a fan).

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54 Posts

August 25th, 2002 00:00

There is something that you can stick inside your computer, that connects to a open drive port, that will beep if your computer's heat rises to an unsafe level. Here are some links to such items:

http://www.aapspower.com/110alert.html

http://www.directron.com/sensors.html

I say that your best device to alarm you of overheating is the 110 alert.

Good luck

38 Posts

August 25th, 2002 03:00

One nifty fan I found was this:

http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=370003

What you do with it is stick it inside any empty slot (doesnt connect to motherboard, just slot) and then it inhales all the hot air from inside the computer that builds up and blows it out through the back. I have 1 of these on my custom built PC and also added a new power supply, that has 2 fans, not 1. One fan blows air inside the power supply, and the other blows it out thru the back, keeping it cooler. Along with that I also have 1 fan in the front that inhales air in and another fan that exhales air out thru the back. So in total, I have about...hmm...6fans:
2 fans on the power supply...1 is monitored by motherboard (as heat increases, rpm increases)
1 on front of case, monitored by motherboard
1 on back of case
1 slot cooler
1 fan on CPU heatsink

The computer stays quite cool now. Even though the P4 can take alot of heat, I'm kinda paranoid of keeping it as cool as I can.
The guy who posted before me is right, the DELLs dont have onboard heat sensors, but there are def ways to add one like someone has mentioned before. I also heard from someone else that DELLs also dont have fans on the heatsinks themselves, but have this plastic tube thing that takes away all the heat from it. Weird design...since I see things like that being sold on websites, but they help more air get blown towards the heatsink/fan.
This website also offers some neat cooling items, such as better fans and whatnot:
http://www.crazypc.com

Hope this helps. I def reccomend those slot coolers. Theyre awesome


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Message Edited on 08/25/02 12:42AM by Silent157

61 Posts

November 26th, 2003 10:00

you may want to try a cryo-case, or a liquid cooling system like this:  http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/koo-24.html  :-)

10 Posts

November 26th, 2003 10:00

Dells do have temperature sensors.  They are standard on all P4 chips.  Try using Motherboard monitor  http://mbm.livewiredev.com/

November 26th, 2003 14:00

cyro-case??? explaination please.

61 Posts

November 26th, 2003 15:00

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453 Posts

November 26th, 2003 16:00

You cannot use a Dell motherboard in a different case I have a 4400 that's dead now but I went to check it out.  Unlike most systems especially ones built to order or ones you do yourself there is only ONE connector for the front panel of the case and it's a ribbon cable.  Other motherboards require a connector for each thing such as power LED,  HDD LED, Pow Switch, Speaker, and reset button (lacking in Dells).  So if you are gonna go through the trouble of getting a new case get yourself a new mobo.  And you will not be able to use the Dell cooling fan to cool the processor so a new fan and heatsink are also required.  But your processor and any cards as well as your optical, hard drive, and floppy drive can all be migrated to the new case.  the reason I say the thing about the fan is I JUST tried to use it a few days ago and no go.  Sorry to disappoint you. 

3 Posts

March 10th, 2005 09:00

Actually,
removing the case cover REDUCES the cooling effect.

3 Posts

March 10th, 2005 10:00

If you're into mobile computing, Dell makes excellent laptops (besides, it's nearly impossible to build one yourself). They also make excellent desktops and monitors as built. However, if you think you'll ever want to upgrade (rather than buy a new system), BUILD YOUR OWN. Dell motherboards, heat sinks, power supply units, fan connectors, cases, etc. are all proprietary. This basically means that if you would like to upgrade beyond the basics (memory, hard drive, CD-ROM) you can forget it. Anyway, the alternate reason that you would want to build your own is so you can choose which components to put in and make it quieter, cooler, more reliable, more configurable (a Dell BIOS is crippled), and faster than a Dell. NO company builds the best of everything and every company has their forte.

So, although it will be more expensive in the short term, you can easily swap out parts as needed in the long term. The following is a list of parts that I would suggest from years of experience:

Coolermaster or LianLi case (make sure it's at least a mid-tower and aluminum)
Coolermaster round cables (they are the most flexible I've found)
Zalman case fans, CPU heatsink (the huge flower-type), and VGA cooler (after trying many others, Zalman, by far, makes the best and quietest air-cooled systems)
Antec or Enermax power supply unit (get more power than you think you need)
Intel motherboard
Intel CPU
Kingston or Corsair memory (don't settle for the "value" memory either)
Artic silver 5 thermal paste
D-link router and adapters (if you network)
Logitech mouse, keyboard and speakers (which are awesome)
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 soundcard
Hitachi hard drives...very fast, reliable and quiet (SATA RAID 0, buy two)
Sony or NEC CD-DVD-RW drives
Sony floppy (if you still use floppies)
NVidia graphics card (I've had better luck with NVidia than with ATI)
Samsung, Sony, Hitachi, or Dell LCD monitor
Brother laser printer
Win XP Pro
Mozilla Firefox browser; available for free (ditch Internet Explorer...if you can)
Mozilla Thunderbird e-mail; available for free (ditch Outlook Express...if you can)

Of course, there are many other companies that make comparable products, but I don't have the budget to try them all.

If you can avoid it, try not to buy a motherboard with on-board video or sound (this defeats the purpose)

61 Posts

March 10th, 2005 10:00

Who exactly are you talking to? The last post to this thread before your 2 today was 1.5 years ago...

3 Posts

March 11th, 2005 01:00

Myself, I guess :( I didn't realize the age of the post...my bad!
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