Sorry that's happening CPU,

Can we get a formal response to this issue ChrisM?

Thanks!

Bub

This could be potentially BIG disaster for Dell. I can't believe they didn't learn from the T2300 & T2300E bait and switch. What a freaking joke Dell is.

Anyone want to investigate more into this? Dell has NEVER said that we would be getting a Core2Duo chip that is proprietary. NEVER EVER. Can we say FALSE ADVERTISEMENT?

Whats new, another day another Dell OEM butcherization :)

I bet its off, rather not available in any of there 'home' systems.  I have seen it in precision BIOS, but this is getting rediculous to cut features.

The chip supports it so they think, 'no one will use that feature in a gaming pc' how sick of this are you all getting?

I have not received my system yet, it's still "in production", but VT was one thing I was looking forward to playing with. When I read this thread it did concern me so I called XPS support. What they said was that it is intentionally disabled by the bios and there is no setting to turn it back on. He also said that right now they do not intend to make it available in the future.

The reason he was told was that the video card would burn up if they allowed it????? If someone can give me a logical explanation as to how the video card would even overheat due to VT being turned on I would appreciate it. I have friends who run, let just say alternate OS laptops which just began shipping Intel processors in them, that ship with VT turned on they work flawlessly. Never seen it burn up once. So, I would think a high end gaming system with high-end graphics cards would be in great shape to run VT.

If anyone else can talk to tech support maybe they can get more detail. If VT is disabled it may just be the final straw that causes me to cancel my order. I guess I'll just need to think about it.

Oh Dear,

It seems I upset Dell. How does it feel?
Too bad I can't just delete the $3500 from YOUR account like you've deleted my posts.
Alright I'll keep it safe. No legal speak. There are other forums for that.

I'm glad some of you did get to read it before it got "removed" from the chipset....i mean forums.

test,

Hmm,

They can't reply to these "speculations", but they sure can delete posts!

Comon Dell, come begging us to forgive you and not seek professional help.  Cause I assure you, it's on the way whether you've noticed it or not!

Bub

Here you go,

Intels spec sheet on the various flavours of the C2D.
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2duo/specifications.htm

yes they ALL should supprt VT.

This bit of info:

± Intel® Virtualization Technology requires a computer system with an enabled Intel® processor, BIOS, virtual machine monitor (VMM) and for some uses, certain platform software enabled for it. Functionality, performance or other benefits will vary depending on hardware and software configurations. Intel Virtualization Technology-enabled BIOS and VMM applications are currently in development.

Shows that IT CAN be enable through the Bios by Dell.

The question is will they?

Message Edited by test4echo101 on 09-01-200603:47 PM

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@XPS Argh wrote:
I have not received my system yet, it's still "in production", but VT was one thing I was looking forward to playing with. When I read this thread it did concern me so I called XPS support. What they said was that it is intentionally disabled by the bios and there is no setting to turn it back on. He also said that right now they do not intend to make it available in the future.

The reason he was told was that the video card would burn up if they allowed it????? If someone can give me a logical explanation as to how the video card would even overheat due to VT being turned on I would appreciate it. I have friends who run, let just say alternate OS laptops which just began shipping Intel processors in them, that ship with VT turned on they work flawlessly. Never seen it burn up once. So, I would think a high end gaming system with high-end graphics cards would be in great shape to run VT.

If anyone else can talk to tech support maybe they can get more detail. If VT is disabled it may just be the final straw that causes me to cancel my order. I guess I'll just need to think about it.

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Interesting explaination.  Anyone with a P4D want to see if they have VT?  This wouldn't be just a C2D issue would it?  :smileywink:

Oh you've got to be kidding me - that was one of the main reasons I wanted the C2D so I could virtualize Windows in Linux with XEN. This needs fixed IMMEDIATELY. I guess I'll find out first-hand once I get Linux on here.

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@XPS Argh wrote:
He also said that right now they do not intend to make it available in the future.

The reason he was told was that the video card would burn up if they allowed it?????

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Btw, that is COMPLETE BULL. It's a straight lie.

Until they add it to the BIOS ot won't be available at all! This is total contempt of there consumer base to ignore supporting a feature as usefull and anticipated as VT.

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@swbrown wrote:
Oh you've got to be kidding me - that was one of the main reasons I wanted the C2D so I could virtualize Windows in Linux with XEN. This needs fixed IMMEDIATELY. I guess I'll find out first-hand once I get Linux on here.

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Because the option is in the BIOS of Dell Precision Worktations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Therefore they had to deliberatly NOT put it in the XPS 700 BIOS.
Get it?

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@Expert_Professional wrote:

Now not to be the token Dell Fanboi but......

I understand that its a frustrating situation but why would think Dell would intentionally disable this feature for no good reason? Do you honestly believe they would do this for straight out fun? Logical thought prompts me to think that there is reason behind it.... most likely the reson will come out and no doubt shortly after that there will be a fix with a bios upgrade..

Just my 2 cents

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Now not to be the token Dell Fanboi but......

I understand that its a frustrating situation but why would think Dell would intentionally disable this feature for no good reason? Do you honestly believe they would do this for straight out fun? Logical thought prompts me to think that there is reason behind it.... most likely the reson will come out and no doubt shortly after that there will be a fix with a bios upgrade..

 

Just my 2 cents

Dell has done this for the obvious reason. Its the same reason they change half of the stuff they send to consumers. They still think that even those who purchase their gaming system is dumb and will turn on a feature like this and screw up the system. Meaning? They will be still under warantee and Dell will have to spend extra money for a new part. So what better to do then just turn the feature off. Screwing those that know what it is and stopping those that dont by giving them a 1 in 9 million chance of messing something up. But on the XPS700? Dell, comeon. Why not just hack the video card clock speeds in half while your at it.