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safsurfer

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June 21st, 2005 21:00

Dimension 8200: What Memory Type to Use???

Hi, I want to add some more memory to my dimension 8200. I am adding a new 2.8 processor as soon as it arrives in the mail, so I don't know if that will have any bearing on memory upgrade. I don't beleive it will so correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway I currently have Installed, straight from Dell factory original, ELPIDA, NonECC, PC800-45, Part Number MC-4R256FKE6D-845, QTY 2. I want to add some more ELPIDA I found for a great price, part number MC-4R256KFE8D-845 800-45, the diference being 16 vs. 18 bits??? The 6D vs. 8D
Does anybody know anything about this. I also see it in the Samsung memory as well where the part numbers start with 16 or 18. Is this an issue or can I just go ahead and get it? Also, I may even add a gig so those part numbers for ELPIDA would be MC-4R512FKE8D-845 or 840.
 
So, bottom line, what do I do, and please don't send me to zipzoomfly, they offer nothing and there prices are high. Pricewatch or Ebay is cheaper. But none really offer any real information of exactly what all the ins and outs of the memory configuration are suppose to be.
 
Thanks
 
 

shesagordie

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June 21st, 2005 21:00

safsurfer.

Dimension_8200: (sold before May-6-2002) Chipset: Intel 850. System motherboard has a 400Mhz FSB. Has 4 memory sockets. Each socket has a maximum capacity of 512MB. Minimum system RAM is 128 MB. Maximum system RAM is 2GB. Uses RDRAM-Rambus PC800Mhz. Memory must have a 45ns rating. Uses ECC or NON-ECC memory.

Dimension_8200: (sold after May-6-2002) Chipset: Intel 850E. System motherboard has a 533Mhz FSB. Has 4 memory sockets. Each socket has a maximum capacity of 512MB. Minimum system RAM is 128 MB. Maximum system RAM is 2GB. Uses RDRAM-Rambus PC800Mhz. Memory must have a 40ns rating. You cannot use older 45ns RDRAM on this system. Uses ECC or NON-ECC memory.

Bev.

rickmktg

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June 21st, 2005 22:00


@safsurfer wrote:
Hi, I want to add some more memory to my dimension 8200. I am adding a new 2.8 processor as soon as it arrives in the mail, so I don't know if that will have any bearing on memory upgrade. I don't beleive it will so correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway I currently have Installed, straight from Dell factory original, ELPIDA, NonECC, PC800-45, Part Number MC-4R256FKE6D-845, QTY 2. I want to add some more ELPIDA I found for a great price, part number MC-4R256KFE8D-845 800-45, the diference being 16 vs. 18 bits??? The 6D vs. 8D
Does anybody know anything about this. I also see it in the Samsung memory as well where the part numbers start with 16 or 18. Is this an issue or can I just go ahead and get it? Also, I may even add a gig so those part numbers for ELPIDA would be MC-4R512FKE8D-845 or 840.
 
So, bottom line, what do I do, and please don't send me to zipzoomfly, they offer nothing and there prices are high. Pricewatch or Ebay is cheaper. But none really offer any real information of exactly what all the ins and outs of the memory configuration are suppose to be.
 
Thanks
 
ZipZoomFly actually has very good prices for RDRAM.  And of course they have the Samsung part numbers that you need that you can then search for elsewhere to realize that you should have bought from ZZF. 
 
18 is ECC memory and not needed.
 
Going over 1gb will slow your computer. 
 

safsurfer

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June 21st, 2005 23:00

Thanks, But.....going over a gig total slows the machine???...Tell me more, please. I haven't checked the 16 18 ECC non-ECC yet but, I thought I looked for something like that in my investigation when I was bouncing around ELPIDA Samsung dell zzf ebay, blah blah...I'll have to go back and recheck cause if that's all it is then I'm in business, either way a gig or a half. So if you can explain the slowed do=wn thing, then I can decide. Thanks SS

safsurfer

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June 22nd, 2005 00:00

Hi, OK, all that being said, I'm just trying to boost my system to it's max potential , not it's max volume, you know what I mean? I just want it to be the best it can be, so if 512MB is the best performance or 1.5MB I want to know where to draw the line. So should I go to a gig or 1.5 cause I'm not getting rid of the 512 thats in it already.  Thanks, SS

Daddyjaxx

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June 22nd, 2005 00:00

For MOST applications, anything over a gig has been proven to actually run slower.  IMO, up to 2 GB really isn't exactly overkill on most systems, but over 2 GB is definitely overkill.  Except in your situation.  2 GB is so expensive for the obsolete memory on an obsolete system...it would be overkill.

Someone recently posted that going to 4GB did not give them the performance boost they were expecting.  Well....no kidding.  How can your system use 4 GB when it doesn't use the 1 GB that it originally had.

Message Edited by Daddyjaxx on 06-21-2005 09:33 PM

herb366

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June 22nd, 2005 01:00

1GB of ram is the "sweet spot" for amount of ram to have. My games seems to run fine with 768MB. If you already have 512mb why don't you just add another 512mb.
 
 
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Dimension 8200 (July 2002)
3.06Ghz P4 w/HT 533fsb---------------------------------------Dell 250W PSU
768mb pc800 rdram---------------------------------------------P992 19" Flat Screen Monitor
128mb BFG GeForce 6800oc (16 pipes enabled)---------Logitech 5300E 5.1 THX
56K PCI Data Fax Modem--------------------------------------80GB Ultra ATA HD
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz DSP sound card-----------------40X CD-RW
Intel 10/100M PCI Network Card-------------------------------USB Keyboard & Mouse

-Friendlyname-

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June 22nd, 2005 15:00

I couldn't agree more.

D8200 is a happy machine.

P4 3.06/HT/533 FSB; PS 400W; RDRAM 1024; Video Gforce Ti 4200; Audio Audigy 2 Platinum EX; HDs (2) WD120 jbs (8mb cache). etc.

Have fun,

Jane

herb366

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June 22nd, 2005 16:00

I'm with Friendlyname. My D8200 just hums along. :smileytongue::smileyvery-happy:

rickmktg

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June 22nd, 2005 16:00


@-Friendlyname- wrote:

D8200 is a happy machine...

Too much LDS in the 60s?    :smileyvery-happy:

-Friendlyname-

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June 22nd, 2005 17:00

Rick,

Do you mean LSD??? :smileysurprised:  You're reading too much into the "etc." :smileytongue:

Jane

 

Daddyjaxx

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June 22nd, 2005 23:00

That's because HE had too much in the 60's.

rickmktg

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June 23rd, 2005 13:00


@Daddyjaxx wrote:
That's because HE had too much in the 60's.


In the 60s I was 2 - 11 years old you old guy you. 

rickmktg

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June 23rd, 2005 13:00


@-Friendlyname- wrote:

Rick,

Do you mean LSD??? :smileysurprised:  You're reading too much into the "etc." :smileytongue:

Jane

"Happy" computer...  LDS reference from Star Trek http://www.ldsfilm.com/movies/StarTrekIV.html

herb366

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June 23rd, 2005 15:00


@rickmktg wrote:

@-Friendlyname- wrote:

Rick,

Do you mean LSD??? :smileysurprised:  You're reading too much into the "etc." :smileytongue:

Jane

"Happy" computer...  LDS reference from Star Trek http://www.ldsfilm.com/movies/StarTrekIV.html


You must be a Trekkie because I saw the movie and don't remember that line...but then I don't remember conversations from yesterday. :smileyvery-happy:

-Friendlyname-

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June 23rd, 2005 17:00

OK,  I got it!  I really got it!!!:smileyvery-happy:  I can hardly think of you as nerdy (senile), now, can I:smileywink:  I'd get the DVD, but I almost feel as if I've seen it.

The truth of the "happy" reference won't be nearly as interesting.  The hosts on the Food Channel cooking shows (Emeril, for one) have been claiming that the dish they are making is "very happy" when they have added ingredients to it, especially spicy ones.  I guess this jargon could analogize to a computer that you have added "beefed-up" parts to.:smileyhappy:

Long live the 60s

Jane

 

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