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December 2nd, 2016 14:00

Do both of the XPS 8910 M.2 slots support NVMe SSDs

My XPS 8910's came with one M.2 slot populated with a wireless card that I do not need.

I would like the ability to use 4X NVMe SSDs in BOTH slots.

Can I?

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December 21st, 2016 02:00

One socket is NVMe PCIe 4X.  The other is SATA.

en.community.dell.com/.../19995152

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December 23rd, 2016 18:00

In a way the documentation does the info you need.  It states one slot is for a WLAN card and the other is for an SSD.  You would need a very short SSD (2242) to go in the WLAN slot.  The fact the WLAN slot is identified as SLOT1 may mean something.

Everything I have read states the configuration of those slots is set by the manufacturer, so they are not all capable of all M.2 device types.  In addition to that, if they were both capable of an SSD, they probably would not both be usable at the same time.  You may be able to check the number of PCIe Lanes available and see if there are enough for both slots to be functional.

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December 26th, 2016 08:00

Ive an 8910 (and also a Area 51 R2 with 2 samsung 950 pro's utilizing x4 on both) and i have a 950 samsung on the x4 pcie lane slot 3 and an 950 m.2 half terabyte on the other m2 slot.  Im getting x4 speeds from the 950 on the pcie slot.

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December 5th, 2016 14:00

i have an 8910 and i have a 850 samsung in the slot thats dedicated for these m.2 ssds and i also have a 950 pro attached to a pcie express in the x4 slot. both are 500GB in capacity.

i still have the wireless card in its own slot.

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December 6th, 2016 05:00

Still need to know:  Can I use BOTH m.2 slots for NVMe SSDs?

Yes, I wish to ultimately have TWO m.2 NVMe SSDs

AND I'll also use the 4x PCIe slot for more NVMe SSD.

PLUS, I'll still use the SATA slots for high capacity (4+TB) drives.

I do a lot of video editing and need the speed and capacity.

I have just bumped memory to 32GB and will shortly (with budget) go to the full 64GB memory.

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December 20th, 2016 20:00

Is the m.2 slot 4X?  What about the other (2nd) m.2 slot?  Is it NMVe?  I have searched all over the Internet for this information and have not found it.

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December 23rd, 2016 10:00

From a recent Chat session with DELL:

James Smith        So, at least one of the two m.2 slots support the NVMe. Now, is it 1X, 2X, or 4X?

TIP_Paulo DC Do you mean the interface? It is x4 (up to 32Gb/S) NVMe 1.1

James Smith       That is what I wanted to know !!!!

James Smith        Only with x4 does one get the full potential of the NVMe SSD

James Smith        Now, what about the other m.2 slot? NVM2 with 4x?

James Smith        Is this documented anywhere? a URL?

TIP_Paulo DC Yes, it will be the same with the 2nd slot.

From this conversation, it seems that the two M.2's are x4 (up to 32Gb/S) NVMe 1.1

I am still waiting on DELL to provide actual documentation on this matter!  Where is the documentation?

Currently, the second M.2 contains a communications card (WiFi + Bluetooth), which has nothing to do with SATA.

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December 23rd, 2016 13:00

Dell's published specifications do not agree with what the representative told you.

downloads.dell.com/.../xps-8910-desktop_reference guide_en-us.pdf

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December 23rd, 2016 16:00

I have studied this manual (22 pgs), as well as the DELL XPS 8910 Service Manual (116 pgs).

Neither document goes beyond indicating the existence of the M.2 slots -- two of them.

Specifically, the reference guide provides:

M.2 Card

•  One M.2 card slot for SSD

•  One M.2 card slot for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth combo card Communications

The XPS 8900 is pre-NVMe (only SATA SSD support).

From non-DELL documentation< supposedly, the XPS 8910 (I have two of them) does provide NVMe support:

1. via the m.2 slots for SSDs

2. via the 4x PCIe slot is supposed to support

So far, it seems at least one of the two m.2's supports NVMe, but at what level?  4x?

But what about the other m.2 slot.

I have NO use for the current wireless card that is using the 2nd m.2 slot.

I really would like to have it for additional NVMe SSD support.

I am very disappointed that DELL cannot produce the documentation that is needed to make intelligent purchase decisions, and follow-up installation of said item.

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December 23rd, 2016 19:00

Thank you, Saltgrass. I'm getting closer to what I need.

Samsung now has a 960 PRO 2TB NVMe SSD -- costs $1200+ at the moment, but I'm watching.

Their 960 EVO 1TB NVMe SSD is only $479, which is the minimum I would consider getting.

It is a shame if the SLOT1 M.2 is a priori so constrained.

At least there is ONE M.2 NVMe slot.  So, I'll have to plan to max it out when I get my SSD.

How about booting from this M.2 slot SSD?  

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December 24th, 2016 04:00

The NVMe drive is bootable.  The other M.2 slot won't be.  If you need more SSD storage, 2.5" SATA SSDs are the way to go.

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December 24th, 2016 07:00

Seems DELL is following the same pattern with their desktops that some of the custom laptop vendors follow.

a) provide multiple M.2 slots

b) use 1 of them for a "everything wireless" card

So, I will plan my upgrades around

a)  1 NVMe M.2 slot -- which is "bootable"

b)  1 PCIe 4X slot that also supports NVMe

That will be all the NVMe support I'll get, at least for this box.

The next opportunity (not there yet, but surely will come) likely will to utilize the USB 3.1 slots (have 2 of them A & C) in my 8910's !!) for a high-end (e.g., NVMe based?) USB 3.1 SSD opportunity.

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December 24th, 2016 07:00

Thanks, Ejn63.

You used the term "NVMe" to describe the bootable M.2 slot.  THANKS!

Now, how about the other M.2 slot -- what are its specifications? Forget it currently is doing wireless functions, which I do not need in the XPS Tower with its own 1GB ethernet.

Also, rather than go with SATA SSDs, I will first use the NVMe M.2 for bootable replacement of my current C drive.

I was thinking of going with the new Samsung 960 EVO 1TB NVMe SSD @ $479, and later and another.

BUT if the other M.2 cannot support NVMe SSDs, then I'll have to go ahead with the single Samsung 960 PRO 2TB NVMe SSD.  

That means spending more $$ in one purchase, rather than going with 2@1TB SSDs, if I could use both M.2's.

THEN, later I will populate the single 4X PCIe slot with more NVMe SSD capacity!  The longer I wait, the more capacity that will be available at lower $$.

Then there is the USB 3.1 that could be used for "fast" SSDs (someone will create a case to hold NVMe's there).

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December 24th, 2016 07:00

The second M.2 slot is designed for a wireless card - it's just about certain you can't use it for an SSD.  It's not something Dell ships or supports.

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December 24th, 2016 09:00

So, I will plan my upgrades around

a)  1 NVMe M.2 slot -- which is "bootable"

b)  1 PCIe 4X slot that also supports NVMe

That will be all the NVMe support I'll get, at least for this box.

The next opportunity (not there yet, but surely will come) likely will to utilize the USB 3.1 slots 


Some MoBos disable some I/O ports when others are in use. 

Hopefuly dell wired up the M.2 slot -- AND -- the PCIe 4x slot AND the USB 3.1 to use different super IO lanes from the chipset. 

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