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February 11th, 2004 16:00
How to change BIOS SATA mode (on Dimension 8300) ?
Hi,
I have a Dell Dimension 8300 with BIOS A03 and 1 SATA HD. I also have a problem: Linux can not be installed because most (all?) current Linux distributions do NOT support SATA drives. The best tip that I have found (and one that I found mentioned many times) is to switch the SATA drive to "Compatibility Mode" in the BIOS.
Apparently this SATA Compatibility Mode is a mode where the BIOS pretends to have an IDE drive instead of the SATA drive, at the cost of HD performance. There have been many reports where such a mode switch allowed Linux to be installed on a SATA drive
Now I searched the BIOS of my Dell many many times over and could not find this switch in there, or anything even remotely similar. Yet switching the drive mode is very important for me, because without it I wont be able to get started with Linux.
Newer kernels do support SATA, but Linux install CDs only come with older kernels that do not support SATA. So you have to first be able to install the older Linux successfully, before you can update the kernel as a next step. Once this second step is completed successfully it is then possible to switch the drive back to normal SATA mode in the BIOS.
Please, is the any way for me to switch my SATA drive to "Compatibility Mode" ?



littlewhoo
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February 12th, 2004 08:00
In the meantime you could try another Linux distro like Knoppix (http://www.knopper.net/knoppix), which has no problems with recognizing the SATA disks in my 8300.
Stephan02
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February 12th, 2004 17:00
Hi littlewhoo,
Thanks for the reply :-) Yes, I already tried Knoppix, and very successfully if I may add. Yet Knoppix leaves alot to be desired. It is not a real Linux distro in that its main purpose is to serve as a CD bootable live Linux. Installing it on the HD is tedious and rather alot of components (packages) are missing. Another disadvantage (from my point of view) is that Knoppix is Debian based, and thus lacks many of the comfort features that come with SUSE (like sax and yast).
Regarding Knoppix : only 3.4 works with SATA and there is only a sortof 3.4 pre-release available right now. Namely the one that you get for free when buying the issue 4 of the German computer magazine c't. According to Mr Knopper himself it is inferior in several ways to the real 3.4 release that he is still working on and that will probably need another couple of weeks. I managed to install this "c't Knoppix 3.4" on my HD, despite a rather bad bug in the HD install routine that comes on the HD. I then proceeded to add lots of packages and drivers that are sadly missing on the CD. This is tedious to say the least. I think I'll be able to make do with Debian/Knoppix for the time being, but I am not happy with this system.
My actual goal and preferred solution is to get SUSE 9.0 installed on my Dimension 8300. Yet here we return to my original question and problem : without switching to "SATA Compatibility mode" I wont be able to install SUSE, as it comes with an older kernel that does not support the SATA controller. So : is there any hope for me ? Might someone from Dell be able to supply me with a solution ? This would be GREAT, yet I cant shake this sinking feeling that I am hoping for the impossible
Stephan
Duhhh
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February 12th, 2004 20:00
Stephan02
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February 13th, 2004 18:00
Hi Duhhh,
> Am I the only one who has a couple of ATA drives collecting dust?
Short answer: Yes
Indeed I do not have any spare ATA drive available. I've read before that success could be achieved in that particular way, yet it simply is not an option for me. The only other drive I have is a 40 GB IDE drive, but my second computer feels rather attached to it and stubbornly refuses to boot without it
Ah well, as Dell is not wanting to help me I guess the only thing I can do is wait for SUSE to publish a new disitribution with a SATA supporting kernel. This certainly is the kind of problem that you do not have if you assemble your computer yourself .....
littlewhoo
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February 16th, 2004 07:00
I'm pretty sure, that Knoppix 3.3 supports SATA drives, too. I'm using a Knoppix 3.3 version from September or November 2003 and it's perfectly capable of recognizing and reading from the SATA disks in my Dimension 8300. I don't know about writing to the disks, as I have only NTFS partitions. The only HD related boot option of Knoppix I'm using, is the dma switch.
littlewhoo