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August 10th, 2015 19:00

Precision 690 GPU Upgrade

Hello Everyone!

I'm new to the Dell Community, I recently acquired a Precision 690 Workstation (1kW) w/

Dual Xeon 5080 (3.73GHz)
32 GB RAM
Dual NVidia Quadro FX 4500 GPU (512 MB)


It had XP SP2, Upgraded to 8.1, then free upgrade to 10. Since the update the slave GPU doesn't seem to be functioning properly. All drivers are current. Thought about uninstalling it and reinstalling to see if that would help... (other than that 10 seems to be working well, a little laggy at times.)

I am looking to upgrade my GPU and I'm considering the PNY GeForce GTX960 4GB Model. Would like to get something that will be worth carrying over to a future build. Just curious if anyone as had any luck with the newer GPU's in these ancient workstations.


Primary Use is CAD, Current project file is at 985 MB, So I'm experiencing a lot of lag when orbiting, rendering, and converting to paper space.

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August 11th, 2015 08:00

Drivers past 340 wont work with that adapter.

340 series is the last version supporting the older cards.

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/80141/en-us

 

Nvidia offically END OF LIFE END OF SUPPORT in April 2016.
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/77224/en-us

 http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3473/~/eol-windows-driver-support-for-legacy-products

BEFORE installing this driver.  You also have to add the feature back for Legacy Direct Show from control Panel.  If you do all the right things in the right order it will work.  Control Panel, All Control Panel Items,  Programs and Features, Turn windows features on and Off,

Then do the check boxes.  You MUST BE online when you do this because it will whine about not finding the features and needing to download them from windows update.


The 690 has issues with UEFI bios.

So you would need an older card to work.

Geforce 570 or 580 would work.

My T3400 works fine with a Specific EVGA Geforce 960.

EVGA 02G-P4-2966-KR  GTX 960 2GB 128-Bit GDDR5 SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487091

 

 

 

 

 

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August 11th, 2015 09:00

UPDATE:
Last Night I installed the most recent drivers i found for My Quadro FX 4500 GPU's, My PC now recognizes both but still will not enable "SLI" Mode. (Version 309.08 released February '15)

At which point I contacted NVIDIA "Support" last night and they said My card (Quadro FX 4500) is not compatible with Windows 10, Which the Windows 10 upgrade assistant hadn't said there were any issues with my GPU. After the upgrade windows had installed a generic driver, which worked by made the second card inoperable.

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@SpeedStep

Thanks for your quick response. Are you suggesting that i install the V340.52 Driver for my current cards, or is that the latest driver i will be able to install for a newer card? 

In regards to "So you would need an older card to work."

Dell says that the PNY GTX 960 2GB Card is a compatible upgrade for the Precision 690. If this is not true someone should inform Dell before an unsuspecting user purchased a $200 Paper weight as I was planning to do. 

Thanks Again!

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August 11th, 2015 10:00

The EVGA 960 that Is in the previous post works fine in my T3400 but the 3400 is newer than a 690.  :(  Found the Driver answer in the 340 release notes.

Legacy Support for Curie generation of Workstation products

Beginning with Release 310, the NVIDIA professional drivers no longer support the Curie generation of Workstation products.

 http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/52338/en-us

 

Version: 307.45  WHQL
Release Date: 2012.11.19
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8 64-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit
CUDA Toolkit: 5.0
Language: English (US)
File Size: 187.48 MB

 

NVIDIA Quadro FX 5500

NVIDIA Quadro FX 3500M

NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 X2

NVIDIA Quadro FX 2500M

NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500

NVIDIA Quadro FX 1500M

NVIDIA Quadro FX 4400

NVIDIA Quadro FX 560M

NVIDIA Quadro FX 4400G

NVIDIA Quadro FX 560M

NVIDIA Quadro FX 4000

NVIDIA Quadro FX 350M

NVIDIA Quadro FX 470

NVIDIA Quadro NVS 120M

NVIDIA Quadro FX 350

 

NVIDIA Quadro VX 200

 

NVIDIA Quadro NVS 440

 

NVIDIA Quadro NVS 285

 

Release 304 drivers continue to support Curie generation Workstation products, and NVIDIA will continue to address driver issues for these products in driver branches up to and including Release 304. However, future driver enhancements and optimizations in driver releases after Release 304 will not support Curie generation products.

 

The Release 340 drivers will continue to support these products until April 1, 2016, and the NVIDIA support team will continue to address driver issues for these products in driver branches up to and including Release 340. However, future driver enhancements and optimizations in driver releases after Release 340 will not support these products.

Quadro, Quadro FX/CX, and NVS Workstation Products

 

Power wise just about any card should work in your  1000W PSU 690.   The bios is another matter.

I would try as many newer drivers as you can until the supported hardware says otherwise.

I also recommend installing the directx June 2010 patch which puts back dx9 and dx10 drivers that are removed from WIN7,8,10

You download the file and extract to a folder and run dxsetup.exe as administrator.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109

 

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August 11th, 2015 16:00

Patched in the drivers from DirectX like you said.

I think the biggest problem is Win10, I've noticed a lot of people having a ridiculous amount of issues with newer hardware. So I'm certain this 10 year old PC wasn't ready for it. That being said it actually seems to be handling the "upgrade" to Windows 10 better than some of the newer systems I've seen people complaining about.

i appreciate all of the help. I think the driver update from February 2015 is likely the best i can get. i tried a few others with compatibility issues. I was considering getting a pair of random old 1 or 2GB GDDR3 GPU's for about $50 each,  I may just get the GTX 960 and see how it plays out. I'll let you know. if it works, awesome!, if it doesn't, i guess I'm starting a new Build!


I still say DELL shouldn't say a GPU is compatible with a system if it's not. I tried to screen cap the page that says it's the GTX 960 2GB was compatible with the P690, Just saying!

I've never been an OEM guy when it comes to PC's, I just got a "good deal" on this one. I just didn't see of the software issues coming with it.. It really is a good PC, I'm just asking way to much from it running a 1GB CAD file..


Thanks Again!

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