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January 21st, 2016 03:00

Unable to run Windows 10

Hi

when I try to upgrade to Windows 10 I get a message gelling me

NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce430

The display manufacturer hasn't made your display compatible with Windows 10.  Check with you manufacturer for support.

I have an AMD Athlon (tm) 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 

and a

Dell E228WFP flat panel monitor

Bought both from DELL in 2007 so know these are probably antiques but is there something I can do with what I've got to enable me to install Windows10?

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January 21st, 2016 06:00

The monitor is irrelevant to this conversation.

If you have a problem with the video driver, try installing it in Windows 10 compatibility mode. If you don't know how, Google it.

Otherwise, I'd suggest buying a new PC if you insist on using Windows 10.

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January 21st, 2016 08:00

A 9 year old computer should not be upgraded to 10 at all. There will be lots of problems and failures if you force the install. Stay with windows 7 until you replace the old model.

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January 21st, 2016 11:00

Or buy a new video card that's compatible with Win 10.

But I think Mary made a very good suggestion to stick with Win 7.

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January 22nd, 2016 06:00

The Athlon Likely does not support NX, LAHF/SAHF / CMPXCHG128 and therefore it wont run 8.0 or 8.1 or 10.  Lowest common Denominator to Run 8.1 or 10 is Pentium D 900 Series from 2005.  This means that 10 year old machines can run 8 or 10.   There are tons of Athlon and Pentium 4 from 2004 and earlier that don't support even NX so those will Never Run 8 or 10.

PAE / NX / SSE2 requirement.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn482072.aspx

 

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January 22nd, 2016 10:00

Can you tell us which 'AMD Athlon (tm) 64 x2 Dual Core Processor ' you have? 

I was able to get my Dell Optiplex 740 with a Athlon X2 4850e to upgrade, though had a Dell OEM Radeon 7570 installed that came out of my XPS 8700, using a low profile bracket that I purchased a pack with various ones from Newegg. 

Didn't bother with the ATI 2400 Pro, or whatever it was called, placed it in an anti-static bag. 

Though the PC isn't being used today, it still ran Windows 10 OK, yet not as good as Windows 7. The real problem was the MB, a nVidia model w/out proper SATA drivers so that my Samsung SSD wouldn't work properly. Yet on a HDD, the install was OK, just slow as molasses. 

I recommend that you do as I just did two weeks ago, grab a Dell Optiplex 780 with a Core 2 Quad (preferably a Q9650) for $100 or so. Mine was $114, and $20 of that was for 2 day shipping. Though I still didn't like Windows 10, so reverted to a backup image. 

speccy.piriform.com/.../EKjsVtBoqSwFQfDPjEte07c

Cat

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January 22nd, 2016 10:00

Hi

Thank you so much for coming back to me.  This is the first time I have tried the support-forum and I really did not know what to expect but has been very impressed.  The answers received have been very helpful and I'll stick with Windows 7 for the time being.  Thank you again  :-)

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January 22nd, 2016 10:00

Thank you so much for coming back to me.  This is the first time I have tried the support-forum and I really did not know what to expect but has been very impressed.  The answers received have been very helpful and I'll stick with Windows 7 for the time being.  Thank you again  :-)

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January 22nd, 2016 11:00

The problem now is only to go web page. Could you able to Find why?

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January 23rd, 2016 12:00

If you get a low profile graphics card, rather than relying on the onboard graphics, you may get somewhere, even if it's one of the cards that optionally shipped with the PC. I believe the Dell Radeon 3400 was one choice, there were about 3 or 4 models. These can be purchased for less than $20 with a 14 to 90 warranty on many sites that carries a wide selection of PC components.

eBay is also another place to look, and they have DOA protection to protect the consumer, as does it's payment processor in PayPal. I've purchased countless amounts of hardware on that site to repair/upgrade Dell & other computers for myself & others with no issues. Yet I knew what I was looking for, and be sure to check seller feedback. 

Just make sure you get one with the DMS-59 adapter if the card calls for it, this allows for connection to two monitors, either VGA or DVI. There's also another model with dual DisplayPort connections, though I forget which one that was, though it was still within the same family. 

Cat

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January 24th, 2016 02:00

i would hold on to your old pc for a while at least till microshaft works out all of the kinks and writes more drivers for win 10

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January 24th, 2016 04:00

more drivers will not help when the cpu is not supported.

There will be no win7 or win8 or win10 drivers for ancient pcs.

You cannot install If your cpu does NX and LAHF SAHF and CMPXCHG128

you can try VISTA drivers or 7 drivers but there wont be any updates to Legacy Drivers for older video and sound cards etc.

Chipset, Video, Audio, and INTEL MSM RST drivers are the ones that show up as yellow  ! in the device manager.


 

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January 25th, 2016 00:00

i have an xps 8500 and tomorrow microshaft will be reinstalling windows 8!! why because dell didn't write any drivers for windows 10 and i doubt that they will!! with a pc newer than nine years old i can't even think of all of the problems that you would have on a nine year old pc:emotion-7:. i don't know why microshaft forces upgrades on everyone:emotion-42:

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January 26th, 2016 21:00

Rather than being sad about not having Windows 10, be happy about not having Windows 10.

#windows10fail

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January 26th, 2016 21:00

Chances are that Windows 10 will support your XPS 8500, even if Dell doesn't provide drivers, as was the case with the XPS 8700 models. Microsoft will detect & install the proper drivers most of the time, and for the XPS 8500 lineup, which has some generation of Intel Core 'i' series CPU's (possibly Sandy/Ivy Bridge), you'll be supported.

If Windows 10 Pro will install on a 2006/2007 model Optiplex 740 that shipped with Vista Business, which it did for me twice, not liking the Home version & since the machine shipped with a TPM, went with a Windows 7 OS that would support Windows 10 in 7 Pro. Being that I have several OEM reinstall CD's (XP/2000) & Windows 7 Home Premium/Pro, which are brand specific, there was no cost involved. 

The only problem with Windows 10 on a Optiplex 740, even if the CPU has the required instruction set, and 8GB DDR2 (PC2-6400) RAM installed, most of these CPU's lacks the backbone to run 7 with authority, much less Windows 10. 

Windows 10 could have been a smashing success, had they not essentially added another layer on top of Windows 7, as well as load the OS down with spyware that uses every piece of the computer's hardware to upload information to Microsoft during 'idle periods' (which has been proven across a few tech forums with pictures), it could have been a smash hit OS release. Rather, Microsoft chose the low road in fulfilling their promise to the US government's PRISM program, of which they were the first large corporation to do so. 

So upcoming developers are shipping software to block as many as 35 processes (number has likely grown since then) that uploads data to Microsoft. This is why it takes a computer with vast resources to run Windows 10, and unfortunately, the Optiplex 740 isn't on the list. 

The OP made the right decision is staying with Windows 7. Even if the current CPU wouldn't meet the specs, a $10-15 model on eBay would have, and a $25 model would have brought out all that the PC has to offer. Since the model number of the CPU was never stated, cannot verify if it was supported or not, though I always run discrete cards in these units, even later ones with Intel 4600 HD graphics, is garbage compared to what a $125-200 card will offer. The WEI for Intel 4600 graphics is at best, around the 6.7 range, drop in a $100 card, that goes to 7.4, the current GPU I'm running in my Speccy specs provides both graphics scores of a perfect 7.9, as does the SSD, am .3 total from having a perfect 7.9 score (7.7 on the CPU & 7.8 on the RAM). 

And Windows 10 didn't run like a champ on the XPS 8700. The closest I got to having the best Windows 10 Pro PC was the Optiplex 780, of which I'm waiting for upgraded RAM to arrive (8 to 16GB), which boasts a Intel Core 2 Quad 9650. Yet in protest of Microsoft's new orders to all of the CPU OEM's not to support Skylake for more than 18 months with Windows 7 Pro installs (despite the fact that Dell & other OEM's shipped 7 Pro on these), leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, reverted to the backup image of 7 Pro for that PC, and will just purchase a i7-4790K for my XPS 8700 & let Windows 8.1 Pro be the last Windows OS I run. 

Cat

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