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October 29th, 2011 00:00
Installing XP Pro SP3 on a T3500
Greetings,
I am interested in ordering several new Dell T3500 Precision Workstations and I do require XP Pro SP3.
I do have the Dell OEM XP Pro SP3 CD and I would like to know if I should press F6 to install any specific
drivers to avoid a BSOD during the installations.
Thank you very much :)
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osprey4
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October 29th, 2011 06:00
Hi NewName4me,
Here are the XP drivers for that system. You'll need to load the Intel driver listed under "Pre-OS install".
Legally, you must buy an OEM or retail license for each machine.
NewName4Me
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October 29th, 2011 12:00
Hi osprey4,
Thank you very much for your help here. I sure hope the drivers work. The Dell XP PCs are badly needed.
I'll talk to a business sales rep on Monday about the purchase of the OEM licenses. That will be fine. The
only concern here is the Pre-OS install. After pressing F6, what media would I use to install the file during
the installation process. On my T3400s, I used iastor.sys on the floppy drive. However, this Pre-OS file
is too large for my external USB floppy drive. How would I load the file? Can I place it on a USB flash drive
and have that plugged in after pressing F6 (if that's still the same key to use) during the install process
or is there another method of loading the file during Pre-OS installation?
Thank you.
osprey4
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October 29th, 2011 14:00
You can slipstream the installation files and the SATA drivers onto a CD-R. Here's a link with one such procedure to create a slipstreamed disc containing the drivers. Another idea is to set the RAID controller to ATA mode in the BIOS.
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November 2nd, 2011 01:00
Hello osprey4,
Sorry it took so long to reply. I haven't been well. If you're sure that changing the RAID
controller to ATA mode in the T3500 BIOS will allow me to install XP Pro then I'll go
ahead with the order, as long as there is no compromise in performance. I intend on
using only one 10,000 RPM SATA HDD in each T3500 system.
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November 2nd, 2011 08:00
ATA is slower than AHCI. XP is very limited to which drivers work with F6 during text mode install.
Installing the AHCI drivers after the initial setup of xp and then doing a repair install may solve that.
Limited OEM driver support is available with F6 during Windows XP ...
When you are installing Microsoft Windows XP or Microsoft Windows Server 2003 on a new computer or on a computer that has the latest SCSI or IDE controller technology, you may have to use an OEM device driver to support, for example, a new mass storage controller, to continue with the installation. The symptoms that you have to install an OEM device driver include the following:
* The computer may keep restarting and never start the GUI installation after the text mode Setup is finished.
* The Setup program may stop, and you may receive an error message if the Setup program does not correctly detect the controller.
* If you are booting from the installation floppy disks or CD-ROM disc, you receive the following error message:
Setup did not find any hard disk drives installed in your system
If you are upgrading by using the Winnt32.exe file, or if you are performing a new installation by using the
Winnt.exe file, you receive the following Stop error:
Stop 0x0000007B Inaccessible_boot_device
* This behavior may also occur after you update the firmware or the BIOS of a supported SCSI controller if the update causes incompatibility with the SCSI driver that is included with Windows.
MORE INFORMATION
During the text-mode phase of the setup process, Windows pauses briefly and prompts you to press F6. This option is displayed in the status line and lets you use an OEM mass storage controller driver. The F6 option is provided strictly as a means to install OEM drivers for mass storage controllers only. This is required to let the installation of the operating system continue. Microsoft does not support using F6 to install any device driver other than mass storage controller drivers.
Note Mass storage controller drivers can be loaded only from floppy disks by using the F6 key. The F6 key cannot be used to load drivers that are stored on USB flash drives, on USB hard disks, or on other external storage devices.
Use of an OEM driver is limited to installing a driver that is not natively supported or that does not match a driver that is included with Windows. If you use a newer version of an OEM driver, and this new OEM driver has the same name or Plug and Play Identifier as a driver that is included with Windows, the Setup program ignores the new OEM driver and uses the driver that is included with Windows. Therefore, you receive the error message that is quoted in the Summary.
If you press F6 when you are prompted, you receive a screen that requires you to have the appropriate driver on a floppy disk and to insert the disk into the floppy disk drive to load the driver.
Windows XP Setup boot disks are available only by download from Microsoft. The Setup boot disks are available so that you can run the Setup program on computers that do not support a bootable CD-ROM. For additional information about how to obtain and use the Setup boot disks, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
310994 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994/ ) How to obtain Windows XP Setup boot disks
Note The Windows Server 2003 family does not include Setup boot floppy disks.
If you require an updated OEM driver to support an existing controller that is natively supported by Windows but is not detected during setup, you must replace the Windows driver for the controller with the new OEM driver. You can find the Windows driver for the controller on one of the six Windows Setup boot disks or in the temporary installation folder ($WIN_NT$.~BT). This replacement allows Windows to use the updated OEM driver during text-mode setup, but you must copy the same updated OEM driver to the System32\Drivers folder of the final Windows installation before the installation continues into graphics-mode setup.
Note that if you choose to format the partition in the NTFS file system during setup, you cannot copy the newer OEM driver into the System32\Drivers folder after text-mode setup finishes. This is because the Windows Setup program formats the partition as NTFS before copying files. To work around this limitation, install Windows into a file allocation table (FAT) partition that is less than 2 GB in size or into a FAT32 partition that is less than 32 GB in size. Doing this allows access by using a startup disk from Microsoft Windows 98 or Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition (Me). After Windows is installed, use the following command to convert the FAT or FAT32 partition to NTFS:
convert c: /fs:ntfs
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NewName4Me
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January 8th, 2012 15:00
Hello,
It has been a while getting back as I have not been able to slipstream. I cannot copy installation files into a folder on my desktop from the installation CD. The system just reboots and ends up installing a second dual-boot XP OS. Also, the link you gave me was for drivers for a T-3400, not a T-3500, which is the one that I need the Mass Storage drivers for. Any advise would be very much appreciated. Thank you
NewName4Me
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January 8th, 2012 15:00
Hello,
Sorry, this reply was meant for "osprey4" ... but any additional help would be *greatly* appreciated :)
NewName4Me
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January 8th, 2012 15:00
Hello,
It's been a couple of months getting back as I have had terrible trouble doing a slipstream. When I try to load the installation files from the OS media into a folder on my desktop the system then just reboots and then everything fails and I end up with a dual-booted PC with a second XP OS on a second primary partition. Something that appears so simple (slipstreaming) to everyone else is giving me such a problem. I must be doing something so evidently stupid that I'm missing. I've tried the Dell OEM XP SP3 CD and also a Microsoft original new $300.00 XP PRO SP2 CD/DVD.
I'm lost here. If there is any advise on what I'm doing wrong it would be very, very much appreciated. Thank you.
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January 8th, 2012 20:00
I'm guessing one of your two OS options boots and the other doesn't? If one works fine, you can simply delete the other OS from the boot list of operating systems to boot to. Are you formatting the disk during the install? Have you tried to "clean" the disk before the install?
NewName4Me
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January 8th, 2012 20:00
Hello,
No, I actually need the installation files in a folder on only one OS so I can use nLite for slipstreaming, but I guess I don't have a clue about how to install the installation files to a folder on the same OS that the OEM XP PRO SP3 CD is loaded on "D:" and the operating system is ofcourse on "C:" I cannot get the installation files loaded into a folder on C:
I create a folder and name it "INSTALL" and place in various places on the C: operating system, but I cannot load the installation files into that folder even though it *asks* me where do I want the installation files loaded ... which is what nLite requires ... /and/ the OEM CD asks for a KEY! I have to tell no ... totally confused :(
Thanks for the reply.
theflash1932
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January 8th, 2012 22:00
If you simply need the installation files in a "local" folder for use with nLite, then open your CD drive (right-click/browse/open or select the Windows Explorer to View Files option with the Autoplay menu), then drag/drop all the folders listed in Windows Explorer for your CD to a folder on your Desktop (don't run anything). Run nLite. When it asks for the location of the Windows installation files, browse to the folder on your Desktop to which you copied the files from the CD.
NewName4Me
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January 12th, 2012 02:00
Thank you.
I have, so far, been able to drag/drop all of the files to a "local" folder on my T-3400. So I have my new T-3500 on the way and I'll see if I can (hopefully!) get XP Pro SP3 installed on it with the required mass storage controller driver during text mode install so I have no BSOD! My T-3400 DVD/RW isn't working correctly so I'll see what to do from once I get the new T-3500. Right *now* I'm going to see if I can copy this folder to an external USB HDD.
I'll post back after I see what happens.
Thanks, again -:)