I guess I will answer my own question. I successfully installed the Samsung 850 EVO - 500GB - M.2 SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-N5E500BW) in my XPS 8900 M.2 socket and am presently using it as my boot drive.
Vague and inaccurate referred to the red text below. Also the picture with the X does not say MSATA. Led me down the wrong path for a while, but I learned a lot and all is well.
If you put an 80mm M2 SATA drive in the slot it will go in but then the bus is shorted out and the machine does not power on at all.
I have an 850 stick and an XPS 8900. When I put it in the M2 slot on my system it DOES NOT POWER ON. Now the manual for the 8900 shows an interposer board. I don't have that. Im talking about an XPS 8900 and the M2 slot and what I have tried. The statements are accurate and repeatable with the EXACT parts discussed. 850 doesnt work. 950 does. B Keyed SATA parts do not work in the NVME M2 slot end of story. Request denied. This is also why B keyed units DO NOT work in a PCI-E Adapter.
Then why does my Samsung 850 EVO - 500GB - M.2 SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-N5E500BW) work?
It is an m.2 form factor with m and b key slots. Just like the one in your picture with the X over it. Above you said:
"I know for a fact that if you put a B keyed drive in the slot it does not work."
I realize we are probably splitting hairs here, but this is a detail oriented discussion. Your statements in the other thread sent me on a wild goose chase and you still insist they were accurate.
There you go again! why do you keep bringing up mSATA when we are talking about M.2? Who would put an mSATA form factor device in an M.2 slot? Did you even look at the device I was talking about? Here, I will make it easy for you:
The OP is talking about and m.2 SSD and m.2 socket, no msata here. Please read the question before continually answering the wrong one. Also, NVME is not a socket, it's a protocol.
B Keyed M2 format drives go to SATA. The non B keyed units go to PCI-E X4 socket.
They have started to produce boards that will accomodate both the 850 "B" keyed and the 950 Not B keyed. I have an 8900 and it DID NOT WORK in the M2 Socket on my motherboard.
M2 NGFF comes in 2 formats and people are giving out FALSE information about what works in the M2 socket on the 8900.
There are boards that take BOTH but B keyed goes to a SATA connector NOT To a PCI-E connector.
There are now UNIVERSAL cards that will work with either. There isn't a board that will take B keyed or Not aka 850 vs 950 in the same socket.
The 8900 DOES NOT work with either. B keyed is SATA, No B key means PCI-E only.
This is making me crazy. I'm hoping for some clarity this. The M2 slot for a Samsung pro 950 is only goiing to use the PCIe x1 lane, is that correct? If so, you're only going to get about 800mb/s on it. Correct? Or has Dell done something very recently so their M2 can utilize x4 to get the potential 2000mb/s? Also, I've looked through the community postings and cannot find exact details on using an aftermarket PCIe M2 card adapter (addonics) with the SSD, but it has been suggested on a few other groups (Toms Hardware etc). What I was not sure of was how Dell's BIOS works for specifying a PCIe Boot drive. Has anyone actually done this? I would like to get the blazing boot and app access speed from the faster SSDs, I just am not sure how well it works with the 8900. Please advise.
Hi, I'm wondering the same thing you were last year. I don't care about NVMe. I just wanted to use my M.2 slot. I saw this Crucial MX300 275GB M.2 2280 (CT275MX300SSD4) that is priced as much as a regular 2.5" ssd, but is a Sata M.2.
Could you pls stop replying ? You need to explain your answers and not simply tell ppl you've done it and everybody else is stupid and should just listen to you. Explain, you stupid old man
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I guess I will answer my own question. I successfully installed the Samsung 850 EVO - 500GB - M.2 SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-N5E500BW) in my XPS 8900 M.2 socket and am presently using it as my boot drive.
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It cannot be stressed enough that a B keyed MSATA drive WILL NOT WORK in this socket. MSATA is NOT NVME.
If you put an 80mm M2 SATA drive in the slot it will go in but then the bus is shorted out and the machine does not power on at all.
The scew to hold it in is M2 x 3.5
M2x3.5
The official Dell part is:
6JPHH1SCREW, M2X3.5, WIFI/SSD/DDPE, DF
(or just part number 6JPHH)
So Samsung 950 models should work.
MZ-VKV256 MZ-VKV512
Capacity 256 GB 512 GB
Dimensions (L x W x H) Max. 80.15 x 22.15 x 2.38 mm
Interface PCIe 3.0 x4 (up to 32 Gb/s) NVMe 1.1
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Vague and inaccurate referred to the red text below. Also the picture with the X does not say MSATA. Led me down the wrong path for a while, but I learned a lot and all is well.
If you put an 80mm M2 SATA drive in the slot it will go in but then the bus is shorted out and the machine does not power on at all.
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August 8th, 2016 06:00
M2 sata is not M2 NVME AKA pci-e no inaccuracy whatsoever. I know for a fact that if you put a B keyed drive in the slot it does not work.
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I have an 850 stick and an XPS 8900. When I put it in the M2 slot on my system it DOES NOT POWER ON. Now the manual for the 8900 shows an interposer board. I don't have that. Im talking about an XPS 8900 and the M2 slot and what I have tried. The statements are accurate and repeatable with the EXACT parts discussed. 850 doesnt work. 950 does. B Keyed SATA parts do not work in the NVME M2 slot end of story. Request denied. This is also why B keyed units DO NOT work in a PCI-E Adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Bplus-M2S-M-2-Socket2-B-M-2242-SATA-adapter/dp/B00DUZ7MGC
M2 isnt MSATA
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Then why does my Samsung 850 EVO - 500GB - M.2 SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-N5E500BW) work?
It is an m.2 form factor with m and b key slots. Just like the one in your picture with the X over it. Above you said:
"I know for a fact that if you put a B keyed drive in the slot it does not work."
I realize we are probably splitting hairs here, but this is a detail oriented discussion. Your statements in the other thread sent me on a wild goose chase and you still insist they were accurate.
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There you go again! why do you keep bringing up mSATA when we are talking about M.2? Who would put an mSATA form factor device in an M.2 slot? Did you even look at the device I was talking about? Here, I will make it easy for you:
www.samsung.com/.../
This device works in my XPS 8900 M.2 slot. End of story.
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The OP is talking about and m.2 SSD and m.2 socket, no msata here. Please read the question before continually answering the wrong one. Also, NVME is not a socket, it's a protocol.
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B Keyed M2 format drives go to SATA. The non B keyed units go to PCI-E X4 socket.
They have started to produce boards that will accomodate both the 850 "B" keyed and the 950 Not B keyed. I have an 8900 and it DID NOT WORK in the M2 Socket on my motherboard.
M2 NGFF comes in 2 formats and people are giving out FALSE information about what works in the M2 socket on the 8900.
There are boards that take BOTH but B keyed goes to a SATA connector NOT To a PCI-E connector.
There are now UNIVERSAL cards that will work with either. There isn't a board that will take B keyed or Not aka 850 vs 950 in the same socket.
The 8900 DOES NOT work with either. B keyed is SATA, No B key means PCI-E only.
https://www.amazon.com/NGFF-Both-PCI-E-Adapter-Converter/dp/B01IEGSFN0
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This is making me crazy. I'm hoping for some clarity this. The M2 slot for a Samsung pro 950 is only goiing to use the PCIe x1 lane, is that correct? If so, you're only going to get about 800mb/s on it. Correct? Or has Dell done something very recently so their M2 can utilize x4 to get the potential 2000mb/s? Also, I've looked through the community postings and cannot find exact details on using an aftermarket PCIe M2 card adapter (addonics) with the SSD, but it has been suggested on a few other groups (Toms Hardware etc). What I was not sure of was how Dell's BIOS works for specifying a PCIe Boot drive. Has anyone actually done this? I would like to get the blazing boot and app access speed from the faster SSDs, I just am not sure how well it works with the 8900. Please advise.
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seems like posts with links get moderated so remove the parens, and replace DOT with .
http(://) en DOT community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19657565?pi21953=4
Scroll down to this post: in that thread above, and you'll see the steps.
Posted by Ivan Yordanov on 17 Jan 2016 4:08
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Speedstep, the only false information comes from you.
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I disagree.
The B keyed units are SATA the 950 goes to pci-e slot.
This board accomodates both types.
Note the B key doesnt go to the bus it goes to a SATA connection.
The M only goes to X4 PCI-E slot.
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Hi, I'm wondering the same thing you were last year. I don't care about NVMe. I just wanted to use my M.2 slot. I saw this Crucial MX300 275GB M.2 2280 (CT275MX300SSD4) that is priced as much as a regular 2.5" ssd, but is a Sata M.2.
Do you think it will work in my 8900?
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Could you pls stop replying ? You need to explain your answers and not simply tell ppl you've done it and everybody else is stupid and should just listen to you. Explain, you stupid old man