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April 29th, 2014 14:00

Ask the Expert: Redefining Entry Level Storage

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Welcome to this EMC Support Community Ask the Expert conversation. This ATE session will discuss how EMC is redefining entry level storage with the simple, efficient, protected VNXe.

Midmarket customers struggle with the challenges driven by unrelenting data growth:


•             Managing complexity of storage and data protection

•             Controlling costs of infrastructure

•             Maintaining application performance and ensuring data protection SLAs

The new VNXe3200 offers enterprise-class functionality at entry level prices for resource constrained IT departments across the world.


Our experts are standing by to cover all this and much more over the next 2 weeks.  Join the conversation!


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Jamin Solensky is a EMSD VNX BU Corporate Systems Engineering. Since joining the VNX CSE team in 2013, he has worked with the Next-Generation VNX and VNXe Series storage systems, with a focus on VNXe. He has also worked on related products including EMC Cloud Tiering Appliance and VNX Monitoring and Reporting. Jamin's experience is mostly on VNX, VNXe, CTA and M&R.

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Charles Reed II  is a EMSD VNX BU Corporate Systems Engineering. Charles joined EMC back in 2011 in the VNX Corporate Systems Engineering team. As part of this team, he has been working on a variety of different releases for the VNX and VNXe Series and Unisphere Central (formerly Unisphere Remote).

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Brian Henderson works on VNX Product Marketing at EMC. He is a Systems Engineer who formely worked in Microsoft solutions, launched AppSync, and is currently working in VNX Product Marketing with a focus on Microsoft, Data Protection, and VNXe.

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May 12th, 2014 08:00

This discussion is now open for questions. We look forward to a lively and informative event.

Best regards,

Roberto

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May 12th, 2014 19:00

Hello everyone! Brian Henderson, Jamin Solensky, and myself are looking forward to discussing the new VNXe3200 storage system with you. We have a lot of great information that can be found on EMC Online Support using the links below.

VNXe3200 Support Page

VNXe3200 White Papers

VNXe3200 How-To-Videos

Feel free to post your questions and comments below. We are looking forward to helping you redefine your storage environment with the simple, efficient, and protected VNXe3200 storage system.

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May 13th, 2014 03:00

Hi everyone,

I have a few questions about VNXe 3200 and VNX 5200.

1.) Is there only one CPU (controller) in VNXe3200 ?

2.) Besides, the hardware specification and supported software, what are the differences  between VNX5200 and VNXe3200 in performance aspect ? For example, the difference in operating environment ?

Best regards,

Chris

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May 13th, 2014 07:00

Hi @WK_Wong,

  1. The VNXe3200 system is a dual Storage Processor (controller) system.
  2. The VNXe3200 and VNX5200 systems both leverage MCx Multicore Optimization within their operating environments. The VNXe3200 provides similar features, functionality, and performance when compared to the VNX5200. The VNX5200 system is the preferred system if you are looking to leverage advanced data services such as Block Deduplication, concurrent CIFS and NFS access to the same share, FCOE, NFS v4, FTP, or SFTP in your storage environment.

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May 13th, 2014 21:00

Thanks Charles,

Regardless of those advanced data services and IO options, when we consider the latency and IOPS performance, for example,  a VNXe3200  and a VNX5200 with the same configuration 25 x 600GB 10kSAS disks and FC connection, would there be a big difference in latency and IOPS provided ?

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May 14th, 2014 10:00

Specific performance numbers have not been published yet, but you can expect the VNXe3200 to be similar to the VNX5200 with regards to performance.

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May 14th, 2014 10:00

So this is because the VNX 5200 is still using separate external Data Movers? But other than the physical Data Movers and the capability of doing MirrorView both machines are comparable, right?

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May 14th, 2014 14:00

Both machines are comparable in terms of performance and share much of the same MCx functionality. Despite these similarities, the VNXe3200 will not have complete feature parity with the VNX5200. As you mentioned, the VNXe3200 does not have separate data movers like the VNX5200. Some VNX5200 features not included in the initial release of the VNXe3200 include:

Remote replication

Block deduplication

Concurrent CIFS and NFS access to the same share

FCOE, NFS v4, FTP, SFTP support

Native quotas

VMware SRM support

Symmetric Active/Active for classic LUNs (all LUNs are pool LUNs in VNXe)

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May 14th, 2014 18:00

Out the gate there are some obvious limitation to the 3200 from a capacity standpoint. How confident is EMC on the time frame of the NDU that will allow for scale out to 125 Drives?

We have a client that would be a great fit but the 50 drive limitation could potentially bring pause to the deal.

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May 14th, 2014 20:00

The VNXe3200 will have a limit enforced within the ordering system (CXP/DXP) that will only allow you to order a DPE and an optional DAE. The drive count limit could be 24 (with a 12-drive DPE and DAE), 50 (with a 25-drive DPE and DAE), or 37 (with the DPE and DAE in any combination of 12-drive and 25-drive configuration). This restriction will be lifted within 90-120 days of the VNXe3200 initial release and customers are able to submit a special request (called an RPQ) for support up to the maximum 150 drive limit. Historically, 98% of all VNXe systems sold have shipped with less than 50 drives.

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May 15th, 2014 00:00

wasn't that because no more drives were supported in the first place? I really see great potential for this baby!

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May 15th, 2014 06:00

RRR,

Is that question in response to Charles' 98% comment? The VNXe3100 and VNXe3150 both support up to 100 drives in a dual SP configuration (50 for single SP) and the VNXe3300 supports up to 150 drives.

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May 15th, 2014 07:00

What is the reason for the 3200 to only support Base-T 10G and not have support for optical ports like the Bigger VNX's and the 3300. ?

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May 15th, 2014 08:00

VNXe models have always included embedded Base-T ports in the Storage Processors. The only way for VNXe systems to support optical ports would be through the use of an I/O module. VNXe3300 systems can use full-size SLICs similar to the VNX systems, whereas the VNXe3100, VNXe3150, and VNXe3200 systems can only use the half-size eSLICs. Currently, the I/O module with optical ports is only available in a full-size SLIC. At this point in time, we are planning to support the optical eSLIC in a future release.

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May 15th, 2014 11:00

Well, maybe customers going over 50 also grow to over 100? We sell quite a few 5200s, simply because customers want these and the 3200 will be perfect for most of them.

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