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February 19th, 2004 21:00
8600 or XPS?
Just thought I would post here to see what the opinions are.... Basically I have a desktop at work and at home that I want to get rid of in favor of a good powerful laptop. Games are pretty important & so is performance, But on the same hand I want to be able to take the laptop to the library or Starbucks and that kinda thing as well so the 8600 seems like a good size I know someone said "Well it's only .5" bigger.." but thats 1/4 the thickness of the laptop!
This was the config I was looking at for the 8600
1.7 Pentium M
1024 Mb Ram
60 7200 RPM HD
Radeon 9600
That being said I can get all that for about the baseline price of the XPS. (Which would have a lot less ram) I mean I don't know for sure but wouln't you think a system like the 8600 would be able to play HL2 and Unreal Tournament 2004?, maybe not. Most of my time is spent coding (But also using 3D Apps) so while coding isn't bad the 3D Stuff uses any power the system has.......
Does anyone happen to have an 8600 configured like above who would be willing to run some benchmarks on it? That way I could run the same on my work system (Which is a 2.4 Ghz machine) and see how it compares.....
Any thoughts please post them!
Message Edited by MechaDragon on 02-19-2004 07:11 PM


mattcowger
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February 19th, 2004 22:00
raiden00
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February 20th, 2004 12:00
revbishop
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February 20th, 2004 17:00
Seems to me that the XPS is more like a brick (very heavy) and much thicker... I guess if you are looking at a machine that you hardly move around, then it would be a good buy. Can't imagine it getting good battery life (couldn't find any reference to that in its specs - probably not worth mentioning). I can get nearly 8 hours with my 8600 with both batteries. Great performance on it too... Very happy with it. Plus, I won't throw out my back lugging it around...
revbishop
P.S. Does anyone know if the snap covers for the XPS will fit on the 8600?
warmonger
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February 20th, 2004 18:00
Specs 86001.7,128Nvidia5650FxGo,768MB 333DDR,15.4 WSXGA+,60GIG HD, 1300Wireless,4xDVDR+RW
Message Edited by warmonger on 02-20-2004 02:48 PM
MechaDragon
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February 20th, 2004 19:00
The Imperator
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February 21st, 2004 08:00
I might be missing something, but on DELL CANADA, configuring a XPS laptop comes out to less than a 8600...the 8600 has to have a 1.6GHz processor for it to stay competetive w/the XPS.. + it has the same amount of RAM, same HD, and a worse graphic card (Anandone.com tests rate 9700 approximately 25% higher than 9600). A 1.7 with 1024MB RAM is much more expensive than an XPS...also the RAM is 333MHz compared to 400MHz..
I have to choose between the 2 too, so any help = appreciated. I'm looking for around $3000CAN, so about 2200$US.
thanks,
I.
RandyB
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February 21st, 2004 14:00
I just priced out an XPS and without adding anything (3 year on-site, no floppy drive), it came to $3,581.56 with the tax.
The Imperator
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February 21st, 2004 16:00
MechaDragon
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February 21st, 2004 17:00
Message Edited by MechaDragon on 02-21-2004 02:11 PM
raiden00
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February 21st, 2004 19:00
The Imperator
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February 21st, 2004 21:00
canadian, canadian dollars :)
i mean the XPS in canadian as well.
i jus did it, w/a 1.5 : 3,048$CAN without TAX
Base:
Pentium®M Processor,1.5GHz,15.4 WUXGA
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
Memory:
512MB,DDR,333MHz 1 Dimm
Video Card:
128MB ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9600 PRO
Hard Drive:
60GB - 7200rpm UltraHard Drive:
etc etc.
A basic XPS (3.4GHz, 60GB, 9700radeon, 512MB ram, etc) comes out to 3099...both have the most basic warranty.
It's really strange I think...well the Inspiron IS alot smaller and thinner, but most people here say XPS is more $$...it's actually not, if u configure the Inspiron even MODERATELY well..
RandyB
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February 21st, 2004 23:00
Well, then they're both way too expensive!
GENERAL: When are you guys from the U.S. going to learn...if someone says they paid $3500-4000 for a notebook; they're probably talking CDN$, eh? We have computers up here, too. We keep them under a shelf in our igloos.

The Imperator
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February 22nd, 2004 02:00
what I wanna know is: how much of a performance boost does a P4 3.4 have over a PM 1.7...to see if it's worth the battery life..CNET an all that havent posted reviews yet..
anyone have any numbers?
raiden00
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February 22nd, 2004 04:00
well keep in mind a 1.7ghz pentium m is about a 2.6 pentium 4 so its better, i mean the p4 with ht is the best processor out right now (if you dont count the amd 64bit ones) as long as you have sufficent ram you will be fine, you will however be able to tell a difference. im not a computer expert(not yet at least) but the p4 with ht is brand new so its going to be more expencive, if you really must have an xps i would wait a little while for the price to go down.
all in all, yes it is better it will make your computer faster but your going to pay the price to get it.
Message Edited by raiden00 on 02-22-2004 01:51 AM
RandyB
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February 22nd, 2004 11:00