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August 6th, 2000 02:00

PCMCIA 2.1 Card and Socket Services

I recently bought a refurbished Dell Latitude LM, Pentium 166MMX. It came with nothing but a floppy and AC power supply. Hard drive has nothing on it. So I bought a third party external pcmcia cd-rom to get it going. It will not recognize the cd-rom or any card it seems until I have the PCMCIA 2.1 Card and Socket Services installed. I don't know where to get this. Hard drive is empty, no disks were supplied with the system, and after scouring the support pages at dell have really came up empty. Can anyone help???

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August 7th, 2000 08:00

It seems you may be in for an awkward situation.. Windows 95/98 has support for pcmcia but i presume you are tryuing to install windows through DOS with the CD-ROM which is not supported!!!!!!!!

Anyway give me your e-mail and I will try and help

Alnug

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August 7th, 2000 15:00

You're right, I am trying to install win98 from DOS. Dell support said my only option was to buy third party software, such as Cardware, to intiliaze the ports in DOS. I thought was saving $ by buying this CD-rom, it was cheaper than faster than any of the internal cd-roms from dell. I guess you live and learn. Thanks for any help you can give. My e-mail is pedy@juno.com.

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August 22nd, 2003 08:00

Hello Alnug

From a closed thread (PCMCIA driver DOS update!!) I understood that you have PCMCIA DOS drivers. Are these the same as referred to here ?

Anyway you would make happy be sending those to me at g.boekelo@freeler.nl

My system is a Latitude with TI-1420 Cardbus controller. I hope your drivers will work. I have been looking for ages to find a working set.

Tia, Gijs

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August 24th, 2003 00:00

Adaptec 1460 AND iomega zip PCMCIA SCSI adaptors have an enabler for this purpose.

The Following lines are required in your Config.sys file for PCMCIA support in DOS or Windows 3.1x. If you have installed Cardsoft to a directory other than C:\cardsoft, then change the path accordingly.

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS

DEVICE=C:\EMM386.EXE NOEMS X=D000-DFFF

DEVICE=C:\CARDSOFT\SSCIRRUS.EXE

DEVICE=C:\CARDSOFT\CS.EXE

DEVICE=C:\CARDSOFT\CSALLOC.EXE

DEVICE=C:\CARDSOFT\CARDID.EXE

These files will activate the PC Card socket. There will probably be additional drivers required by the PCMCIA Card itself. In order to get more information on any additional drivers, please call the manufacturer of the card or reference the manual. This has been provided as a convenience for our customers. Technical Support does not support the MS-DOS operating system on the LM.

Some drivers of PCMCIA cards have an integrated direct enabler function. Unfortunately the drivers of many cards do not yet support modern PCI PCMCIA Controllers. Therefore the "Legacy/Notebook" mode in the System Setup (Advanced- PCI devices- PCMCIA I/O Address) must be adjusted (compatibility with the old ISA Controller type).
On the other hand there are many cards that do have a direct enabler function that has been adjusted to a PCI PCMCIA (NOT CardBus!) Controller. Because with such drivers the PCMCIA Controller is looked for as a PCI Device, the [Legacy] setting in the System Setup does not have any effect - a new driver by the card manufacturer is required or an older driver which still has an ISA-Bus compatible direct enabler function. (e.g. the Accton EN2216 Ethernet Card driver Ver. 1.03).

The possible settings, depending on the card type, are:
I/O=180,240, 260,...,2F0,300,320, 340,... ,370,3A0h and A20,A24(TokenRing) (addresses 200h, 220h, 330h and 380h collide with the standard settings of the Audio Board; for other resources used see BIOS Setup).
IRQ=3,4,5,7,9,10,11,15 (IRQ4 is used by Com 1 as a standard, 7 is used by LPT1 ,5 is used by the Audio Board. IRQ3 is reserved for the IrDA Port, but it can be used for other purposes as long as IrDa Port is not addressed, IRQ 15 is used by the CD-ROM - if available). If necessary you can reprogram all ports and the Audio Board in the Setup or you can switch them off completely.
MEM=CC00-DBFF.

 

The LM uses an INTEL 365 PCIC or compatible PCMCIA controller

One way around the DOS issue is to use WIN95 diskettes.

Boot up and Format C:

Then Copy Every SINGLE DISKETTE to the c: drive.

Then install WIN9X

A PARALLEL scsi DRIVE or PARALLEL ethernet ADAPTOR helps with this because you do not need cardsoft to enable the pcmcia slots as you arent yet using them.

 

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August 24th, 2003 10:00

I forgot to tell you that my system is a Latitude C640 (not LM) with (Phoenix) Bios version A04.

I installed the drivers as in your example (the drivers are included on the CardWizard Pro Version 1.1 for Windows 3.1, that came on one floppy disk with the APA-1460A. Did NOT work!

I assumed the "ISA compatibility mode" had to be activated. Unfortunately I did not find a way or a place in the BIOS setup to change this setting (does the LM run another BIOS ?)

Gijs

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August 24th, 2003 12:00

Microsoft stopped supporting dos a long time ago which is why there are no dos drivers for new desktops or laptops.

The C640 is a totaly different animal than the LM. The C640 has a CARDBUS controller not PCMCIA. And I believe that the C640 WILL NOT EVER support DOS.

The LM is a PENITUM the C640 is a PENTIUM4 CLASS LAPTOP.

CPU : Intel Pentium 4 - 1.8Ghz

Secondary Cache : 512KB L2 Cache

133Mhz Processor Support Bus

Memory : 256 MB DDR SDRAM PC 266Mhz

Memory Socket : 2 DIMM

Harddisk : 20GB EIDE Ultra ATA 100

Media : CDROM Drive 24X EIDE

Graphics Controller : Integrated 32MB with AGP Support

Floppy Disk Drive : 3.5" 1.44MB removable

Audio-Speaker : Integrated Sound Blaster Compatible

Network Controller : Integrated 3com 10/100 Ethernet

Integrated Modem 56K V.92

Display : 14.1" TFT LCD XGA Active Matrix

I/O Connectors : Serial, Parallel, Video, Ps/2, USB, IR, Audio, USB Compliant Connectors

Operating System : Windows 2000/ XP Pro

Battery : Standart 8-cell Smart Lithium Ion

Microprocessor
Microprocessor type/speed Intel® Pentium® microprocessor with MMX technology/133 or 166 MHz or Intel Pentium microprocessor/100 or 133 MHz
Internal cache 32 KB (Pentium microprocessor with MMX technology) or 16 KB (100- or 133-MHz Pentium microprocessor)
External cache 256-KB (write-back) SRAM
Math coprocessor internal to microprocessor



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Chip Set and Bus
System chip set Intel 430MX PCI set
Data bus width 64 bits
Address bus width 32 bits
DRAM bus width 64 bits
Flash EPROM 2 Mbits
Super I/O controller SMC FDC37C665IR (contains UARTs that are software compatible with PC16550A and PC16450)

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PC Card
PCI PCMCIA controller Cirrus Logic CL-PD6730, 2.01-compatible
PC Card connectors 2 (for 2 type I or type II cards or one type III card)
Cards supported 3.3- and 5-V
PC Card connector size 68 pins
Data width (maximum) 32 bits

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Memory
Architecture EDO
Memory module capacities 4, 8, 16, and 32 MB; must be installed in matched pairs (two 4-MB modules, two 8-MB modules, two 16-MB modules, or two 32-MB modules); both EDO and fast-page-mode modules are supported in matched pairs.
Standard RAM 16 MB (8 MB of nonremovable memory on system board and two installed 4-MB memory modules)
Maximum RAM:
Systems without the Pentium MMX processor
40 MB
Systems with the Pentium MMX processor
72 MB
Memory access time:
tRAC
60 ns
tCAC
15 ns
BIOS address F000:0000

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Connectors
Serial (DTE) (1) 9-pin connector; 16,550-compatible, 16-byte buffer
Parallel (1) 25-hole connector; normal (unidirectional), bidirectional, EPP 1.9 or ECP
Monitor (1) 15-hole connector
PS/2 keyboard/mouse (1) 6-pin mini-DIN
Infrared (1) IrDA 1.0 compatible
Expansion connector 240 pins
Audio jacks microphone;
headphones/speakers

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Integrated Audio
Audio controller ES1688 AudioDrive 16-bit digital-to-analog and analog-to-digital audio controller
Audio type Sound Blaster Pro-compatible 3.01 voice and music functions
FM music synthesizer 20-voice, 72-operators
Interfaces:
Internal
ISA bus
internal microphone
internal stereo speaker with external headphones/speakers-out (mini-jack)
External
microphone-in (mini-jack)
Internal speaker amplifier 0.5 W into 8 ohms monaural
External microphone input voltage range 10 to 125 mV peak to peak
Line/audio input voltage range 0.5 to 4.5 V
Controls volume is controlled through key combinations and software applications menu

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CD-ROM
Form factor 5.25 inches
Interface IDE
Memory 128,000 bytes (data buffer memory)
Voltage 5 V (single-voltage drive)
Access time
Data transfer rate:
Sequential
150 KB/sec (normal)
900 KB/sec (6X velocity mode)
1500 KB/sec (10X velocity mode)
From buffer
14.4 MB/sec
Physical:
Height
17.0 mm (0.67 inch)
Width
130.6 mm (5.14 inches)
Depth
140.6 mm (5.56 inches)
Weight (no CD in tray)
0.35 kg (0.77 lb)

4X CD-ROM
6X CD-ROM
10X CD-ROM

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Integrated Video
Video type 64-bit (128-bit hardware-accelerated) PCI
Video controller NeoMagic 2093 (systems with MMX technology) or NeoMagic 2070
Video memory 1.1 MB (systems with MMX technology) or 896 KB

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Display
Latitude LM P-133/166ST active-matrix color (TFT)
Dimensions
(viewable area):
Height
184.5 mm (7.3 inches)
Width
246.0 mm (9.7 inches)
Diagonal
307.5 mm (12.1 inches)

Maximum resolution 800 x 600 pixels with 256 colors
Refresh rate 70 Hz (typical)
Response time 60 ms (typical)
Operating angle 0° (closed) to 135°
Dot pitch 0.31 mm
Power consumption 2.35 W (typical)
Controls brightness is controlled through key combinations or through the Dell Control Center.

NOTE: Contrast controls cannot be adjusted on the TFT display.





Latitude LM P-100SD dual-scan STN Color SVGA
Dimensions
(viewable area):
Height
172.8 mm (6.8 inches)
Width
230.4 mm (9.1 inches)
Diagonal
287 mm (11.3 inches)
Maximum resolution 800 x 600 pixels with 256 colors
Refresh rate 70 Hz (typical)
Response time 300 ms (typical)
Operating angle 0° (closed) to 135°
Dot pitch 0.288 mm
Power consumption 3.4 W (typical)
Controls brightness and contrast are controlled through key combinations.



Latitude LM status display panel all systems
Dimensions
(viewable area):
Height
9.5 mm (0.375 inches)
Width
63.5 mm (2.5 inches)
Diagonal
64.3 mm (2.53 inches)

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Keyboard
Number of keys 87 (U.S. and Canada); 88 (Europe);
89 (Japan)
Key travel 3.0 ± 0.5 mm (0.12 ± 0.02 inch)
Key spacing 19.1 mm (0.75 inch)
Layout QWERTY/AZERTY/Kanji

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Touch Pad
Interface PS/2-compatible
X/Y position resolution 20 points/mm (500 points/inch)
Size:
Thickness
4.65 mm (0.18 inch) at highest component
Width
62.1-mm (2.4-inch) sensor-active area
Height
49.0-mm (1.9-inch) rectangle with 0.5-mm (0.02-inch) tabs
Weight
15 g (0.52 ounce) ± 0.5 g (0.001 ounce)
Power:
Supply voltage
5 V ± 10%
Supply current
4 mA (maximum operating current)

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Latitude LM

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August 24th, 2003 14:00

Thanks for your reply, though not very satisfactory w.r.t. my problem

I am just a litte surprised about the many times I, and all the others who have similar questions, are confronted with the "killer remark" (this is a literal translation of the Dutch word "dooddoener") that DOS is no longer supported. It may not be supported by Microsoft but IT IS STILL USED AND DISTRIBUTED WIDELY, also by reknown software companies such as Symantec (ghost !!) or Power Quest (Partition Magic), to mention just a few. It is a shame, indeed, that Symantec does not provide the drivers necessary for the pertinent hardware to do just that what the software is meant for, i.e. producing and restoring disk images.

I did find a set of "card and socket servises" drivers on the IBM website (aimed at the mentioned applications using Thinkpad models - so they seem to value there clients needs). This, I believe, should be exemplary, for Dell and other laptop manufacturers. The IBM (IBMDOS based) drivers load well on my Latitude C640 but then, unfortunately, aspi2dos.sys comes with the message "host adapter at port address 340 failed diagnostics" and the same for address 140 - thus "aspi2dos.sys installation failed"  

Seems as if I have come a long way but stranded while sighting the shore (forgive me: this is also a literal translation of a Dutch expression).

Gijs

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August 24th, 2003 23:00

Symantec does provide DOS drivers for USB as well as Firewire to use GHOST.

Recent Ghost versions
If you have Symantec Ghost 7.0, Symantec Ghost 6.5 Enterprise Edition, Norton Ghost 2001, or Norton Ghost 2002, use the Ghost Boot Wizard to create the bootable floppy disk. Choose the option "CD-ROM Boot Disk." If you use a DVD drive, copy the DOS drivers for the DVD to the bootable floppy disk and edit the file Config.sys to load the DOS drivers.

DUSE 4.4 is a common ASPI driver for Ghost

http://service4.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/docid/2000042409333225

 

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August 25th, 2003 08:00

Sorry for missing the point here.

I wish to attach a scsi device (Quantum DLT 15/30 SCSI drive), not a usb nor firewire device and address this device under DOS (exactly as I do on my desktop with AHA-2930 SCSI controller) So, what is the use of USB or Firewire drivers in my case ???

DUSE supports just USB and firewire .

I use Norton Ghost 2002 (licenced) and know how to make bootdiscs. As a matter of fact the way I have been imaging my dell disk up till now is via a network bootdisc (master/slave on laptop/desktop). works fine, UNDER DOS, no problem. Again, what I prefer is writing the image to the DLT drive directly UNDER DOS.

Hope this clarified my needs.

Gijs

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August 29th, 2003 00:00

Adaptec Trantor EPP Parallel SCSI adaptor. Works Great under DOS.
Supported by Novell and Ghost and runs slowww as molassis.


APA358

APA-1350

http://graphics.adaptec.com/pdfs/user_guides/apa1350_ug.pdf

http://www.nextag.com/Adaptec_1350_KIT_SCSI~39683z0znzzz1zzAPA1350zmainz2-htm

Specifications for Adaptec 1350 KIT SCSI - APA-1350 KIT
Manufacturer Description: MiniSCSI 1350 
Technical Support Phone Number: 408-945-8600 
Vendor: ADP 
Description: SCSI/Parallel Pass-Through Adapter Cable SCSI-2/Parallel DB-25 
Class: Cable 
Category: Adapters 
Technical Support URL: http://www.adaptec.com/support/ 
Case Pack Quantity: 1 
End A Connectors: Parallel - 25 pin D-shell (IEEE 1284A) 
URL: http://www.adaptec.com/products/overview/miniscsi1350.html 
Cable Length: 39 in 
SKU: APA1350KIT 
Manufacturer Sku: APA-1350 KIT 
End B Connectors: SCSI - 50 pin HD D-shell (SCSI-2) 
Base Warranty: 1 Year (12 Months) 
Cable Type: SCSI,Parallel Pass-Through Adapter 
UPC: 760884133118 
 
 
 
 
 

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January 14th, 2004 14:00

do you still have your dell lm 166mmx laptop?

 

do you want to sell it?

lbrewer@astate.edu

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Hi, Are the extended diagnostics complete? If yes, please share the results, and we’ll be able to suggest the next course of action.

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Hi, Are the extended diagnostics complete? If yes, please share the results, and we’ll be able to suggest the next course of action.

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