Forget about Windows Has Been Dpleted from windows 10 or Dell back up. The best and most reliable way to First Clone your 512GB to your 2 TB SSD and then create and keep SSD Images, on an External USB hardDrive is to use Macrium Reflect Free
With MR you will create and Use a Recovery USB Thumb Drive, You should store any Backup Images on a separate External USB Harddrive.
If you don't need the 512GB SSD You should save it as it has your complete System as it came from the factory. Should you need to send your Notebook in for service or Repair you can just drop in that 512GB that you saved and you don't have to worry your data or them Resetting window or clean installing windows on you. You should only be sending it off for hardware issue so it doesn't matter what hard drive/SSD is in it. If you decide to use it no problem your very first thing to do with your new notebook is to create a Full SSD Image and store it safely.
Thank you very much for you informative and prompt reply. I will take your advice.
While I have you on the 'line', I noticed you have dual SSD drives on you system. The 7991 says there is a dual drive option, but I cannot find any reference as to where it goes, or what installation kit/cables are required. I have the service manual and no mention of it there either.
I also find it frustrating that when looking at buying a machine, DELL or HP, they are still stuffing Hard drives, sometimes mixed with an SSD, in them.
I'm looking at replacing the 512GB with a 2TB Crucial. Any comments on the Crucial? Will this be too hot for the box?
No Idea about Crucial SSD, I only use Samsungs or Intel that's just my choice
Your Service manual should have a section on change hard drive/SSD there you should see how and where they are located.
Your Specification should tell you if you have 2 M.2 NVME SSD slots. Mine did it had a 2230 slot open and a 2230 512gb SSD in the 2280 slot. I merely moved the 512gb to the 2230 slot and tuned the adapter in 2280 around to fit my Samsung 970 Evo 2280 SSD. I then cloned 512GB to 1TB. during the Clone, I set up 3 partitions on 1TB C:, E: and F. This E: and F: were in addition to all the partitions the 512gb SSD. on first boot up use the F12 one time boot and selected my 1tb SSD to boot from. once in windows I used Diskpart to Clean the 512gb SSD and then created a partition D:. I already had Images of the 512GB SSD stored on my WD Passport 4TB external USB back up drive.
Yes, they do tend to stick in a Hard Drive in with a SSD, mostly to keep the price of the computer down. The theory being your OS benefits the most from the speed of the SSD, your storage drive while it will benefit from the faster speed of an SSD it not that significant as it is with the OS. For me having spent many years using notebooks Hard drives are sure to fail. maybe a year or 2 but they always fail. SSD is not that much more expensive anymore so it makes sense to me to use SSD especially in notebooks that get move around pretty much daily if not every few hours. They are faster transferring data especially large files or groups of files. movies and Editing video files. AutoCAD files etc do make a noticeable difference in transfer speeds. and of course, SSD's have no moving parts so they are much more reliable.
I want to add a 2TB Samsung 860 evo SSD to the system. Where can I find the cable that joins the Samsung to the motherboard? How aboutthe tow screws that secure the SSD?
There is no way to select the "Dual Drive Option" on the website, After many "chats" with Dell, I realize that I have to add it myself. That's fine as I am capable of doing so. My problem is: where do I get the cable and the caddy that the SSD will be sitting in??
Here is an excerpt of an email that I sent to the the Dell Parts People:
" Hi.
I have ordered a Dell Inspiron 17 7791 2-n-1 laptop and I want to add a Sata III SSD as a second drive:
From the service manual, I can see there is a “Hard Drive (SSD) Adapter Interposer HDD Cable Connector” and some sort of caddy for the Sata III SSD to sit in:
A related question for you - on 7791 there are 2 M.2 slots - a 2230 slot and a 2230/2280 slot (for NMVe drive). I thought the 2230 slot is for the M.2 wireless card. Is that true, or is there actually 2 M.2 slots in addition to the one for the wireless card?
Since your question is about the hardware of a specific model laptop, you would get more notice if you created a new post with a subject line actually related to your question.
Your Service Manual will answer these questions. On my 13" 7386 it does, in fact, have a 2230 Slot and combo 2230/2280 slot for SSD. I also have an m.2 slot where my Wi-Fi card is installed. This 2230/2280 requires an adapter specific to Dell if you don't already have this adapter you'll need to find one from Parts-People or eBay to use that slot.
To get this information you need to log on to support, enter your model number and most importantly Enter your Service Tag Number.
That will open all the hardware information on your Particular notebook, You should download and read your Service Manual there you will find out how to open your notebook the section on upgrading Storage should have all your answers.
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Forget about Windows Has Been Dpleted from windows 10 or Dell back up. The best and most reliable way to First Clone your 512GB to your 2 TB SSD and then create and keep SSD Images, on an External USB hardDrive is to use Macrium Reflect Free
How to Clone with MR
How to use MR Turorial
With MR you will create and Use a Recovery USB Thumb Drive, You should store any Backup Images on a separate External USB Harddrive.
If you don't need the 512GB SSD You should save it as it has your complete System as it came from the factory. Should you need to send your Notebook in for service or Repair you can just drop in that 512GB that you saved and you don't have to worry your data or them Resetting window or clean installing windows on you. You should only be sending it off for hardware issue so it doesn't matter what hard drive/SSD is in it. If you decide to use it no problem your very first thing to do with your new notebook is to create a Full SSD Image and store it safely.
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Thank you very much for you informative and prompt reply. I will take your advice.
While I have you on the 'line', I noticed you have dual SSD drives on you system. The 7991 says there is a dual drive option, but I cannot find any reference as to where it goes, or what installation kit/cables are required. I have the service manual and no mention of it there either.
I also find it frustrating that when looking at buying a machine, DELL or HP, they are still stuffing Hard drives, sometimes mixed with an SSD, in them.
I'm looking at replacing the 512GB with a 2TB Crucial. Any comments on the Crucial? Will this be too hot for the box?
Thanks again,
M...
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No Idea about Crucial SSD, I only use Samsungs or Intel that's just my choice
Your Service manual should have a section on change hard drive/SSD there you should see how and where they are located.
Your Specification should tell you if you have 2 M.2 NVME SSD slots. Mine did it had a 2230 slot open and a 2230 512gb SSD in the 2280 slot. I merely moved the 512gb to the 2230 slot and tuned the adapter in 2280 around to fit my Samsung 970 Evo 2280 SSD. I then cloned 512GB to 1TB. during the Clone, I set up 3 partitions on 1TB C:, E: and F. This E: and F: were in addition to all the partitions the 512gb SSD. on first boot up use the F12 one time boot and selected my 1tb SSD to boot from. once in windows I used Diskpart to Clean the 512gb SSD and then created a partition D:. I already had Images of the 512GB SSD stored on my WD Passport 4TB external USB back up drive.
Yes, they do tend to stick in a Hard Drive in with a SSD, mostly to keep the price of the computer down. The theory being your OS benefits the most from the speed of the SSD, your storage drive while it will benefit from the faster speed of an SSD it not that significant as it is with the OS. For me having spent many years using notebooks Hard drives are sure to fail. maybe a year or 2 but they always fail. SSD is not that much more expensive anymore so it makes sense to me to use SSD especially in notebooks that get move around pretty much daily if not every few hours. They are faster transferring data especially large files or groups of files. movies and Editing video files. AutoCAD files etc do make a noticeable difference in transfer speeds. and of course, SSD's have no moving parts so they are much more reliable.
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Thanks for the info.
One more question if I may.
I want to add a 2TB Samsung 860 evo SSD to the system. Where can I find the cable that joins the Samsung to the motherboard? How aboutthe tow screws that secure the SSD?
Thanks,
M...
Clintlgm
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February 7th, 2020 07:00
Whatever your service manual show you, that you need that isn't already there you might find at the Dell Parts People
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Hi.
I spent 2 hours on the phone with DELL to see if there is a kit to add the second drive. They simply do not know.
I did try your link above and they have no clue either.
I am hoping that the 7791 (arrives in one week) will have the cable and mounting hardware already in place. Wishful thinking.
Thanks so much for your assistance.
M...
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Was it offered with the 2nd drive installed? if so you'll probably find it ready to go. Mine was
Mike2008C6
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Hi.
The second drive is offered as an "option" on the Dell website:
"Dual drive option: Get the best of all worlds with the available dual drive option for fast speeds and massive storage."
https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/2-in-1-pcs/new-inspiron-17-7000-2-in-1-laptop/spd/inspiron-17-7790-se-2-in-1-laptop/ni177791_h103e
There is no way to select the "Dual Drive Option" on the website, After many "chats" with Dell, I realize that I have to add it myself. That's fine as I am capable of doing so. My problem is: where do I get the cable and the caddy that the SSD will be sitting in??
Here is an excerpt of an email that I sent to the the Dell Parts People:
" Hi.
I have ordered a Dell Inspiron 17 7791 2-n-1 laptop and I want to add a Sata III SSD as a second drive:
https://www.mhparkforsale.ca/C6/Dell-Samsung-SSD-860-EVO-Pins.png
From the service manual, I can see there is a “Hard Drive (SSD) Adapter Interposer HDD Cable Connector” and some sort of caddy for the Sata III SSD to sit in:
https://www.mhparkforsale.ca/C6/Dell-7791-SSD-Adapter-Interposer-Cable.png
Can you help me find the correct cable/caddy and the required 3 X M2X3 and 3 X M3X3 screws?
Thanks,
M....."
No answer so far.
Hopefully someone has some experience with the 7791 and can help. Is there some sort of Dell warranty repair place that I can ask?
Thanks for your reply,
M...
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A related question for you - on 7791 there are 2 M.2 slots - a 2230 slot and a 2230/2280 slot (for NMVe drive). I thought the 2230 slot is for the M.2 wireless card. Is that true, or is there actually 2 M.2 slots in addition to the one for the wireless card?
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@StarrAF
Since your question is about the hardware of a specific model laptop, you would get more notice if you created a new post with a subject line actually related to your question.
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Your Service Manual will answer these questions. On my 13" 7386 it does, in fact, have a 2230 Slot and combo 2230/2280 slot for SSD. I also have an m.2 slot where my Wi-Fi card is installed. This 2230/2280 requires an adapter specific to Dell if you don't already have this adapter you'll need to find one from Parts-People or eBay to use that slot.
To get this information you need to log on to support, enter your model number and most importantly Enter your Service Tag Number.
That will open all the hardware information on your Particular notebook, You should download and read your Service Manual there you will find out how to open your notebook the section on upgrading Storage should have all your answers.