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November 14th, 2005 08:00
2 Issues, wrong key assignment and bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Hi everyone
I have two problems with my Latitude D410 - bluetooth enabled laptop.
Firstly, with my laptop keyboard for some reason two of my keys are swithced around. Number key
2 / " is in fact
@/' even though my keyboard says the
@/' is just above right shift. The number 2 also says that it is the inverted
commas " but is in fact the @. I thought it might just be the Dell Keyboard, but now i have bought the Logitech Bluetooth Mx900 keyboard and mouse. Same problem, with the keys switched.
Does anyone know how to progra, assign the keys back?
And with my new purchase i have found another problem, my laptop is bluetooth enabled, but in order for me to use my new keyboard and mouse i have to plug in the logitech USB bluetooth receiver. Surely my laptop should recognised the keyboard by itself and not the require the receiver. The only reason i bought a bluetooth keyboard was so i would not have to use one of my USB ports.
Can anyone advise me whether i can get my laptop to recognise my keyboard and mouse. If i go to bluetooth manager and search for available devices, it does not identify any in range.
Thanks for any help
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Art
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November 14th, 2005 21:00
The number 2 also says that it is the inverted commas " but is in fact the @. ..."
This is the way it shows on all my keyboards, I know that there are many other keyboard
layouts available to choose, but since the above is 'Standard' for me, have never
chosen different.
Your Logitech Bluetooth should have included a CD with Logitech's Widcomm version 5.x Stack/Driver.
I would first completely remove all Bluetooth Stack/Drivers and turn it off (Fn/F2).
Install the Logitech Stack (without inserting its USB) and when it asks for you to
plug in the USB, turn your on-board Bluetooth 'on' instead.
That should take care of that, if not link HERE for more information about that Logitech Widcomm Driver
than you would ever want to Know:)
Frichie79
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November 15th, 2005 07:00
Thanks for the advice Art, I will give it a try this evening.
but i came across this Q&A on the Logitech website, not sure if i might cause more problems.
Can I connect my Logitech devices to the built-in Bluetooth wireless hub on my laptop?
Although this is technically possible, Logitech strongly advises you DO NOT do this. If Bluetooth devices are connected, the following issues may occur:
Art
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November 15th, 2005 21:00
(except battery just needs replaced about every two months).
I not only could not stand the risk of their 'BT Dongle' sticking out,
I did not want to lose any of the Dell ALPS Console features. It turned
out to be the simplest "Plug-and-Play" install possible and ALPS Console
assigns what I want for the IntelliMouse.
"...Your Bluetooth stack my not have the necessary HID profile..."
I have the Dell Supplied Widcomm version 3x which did, I also tried
that Logitech version 5x and it did very well on my IntelliMouse but
not quite as well on some other devices, so I went back to Dell 3x.
"...If the Logitech Bluetooth Hub is not connected to your PC,
then you cannot install SetPoint software,
and you will not be able to configure all of the buttons on the mouse
nor the multimedia keys on the keyboard. ..."
I doubt that any software is installed on the "HUB" and others have
reported full function using internal Bluetooth, see link below:
I have my MX-5000 mouse and keyboeard fully working with the Dell 350 bluetooth.
I do not know if all these steps are required but here is what I did.
Removed the Toshiba Bluetooth stack and the MS stack.
Installed the Widcomm Stack.
Uninstalled the Alps touchpad driver (did this because the logitech install always said something about it)
Rebooted fresh.
Plugged in the Logitech Bluetooth hub for the install.
Loaded the logitech cd and installed.
Let it do the update at the end.
When it asked to rebooth I let it but I removed the Logitech hub when it shutdown.
After reboot it connected to both the mouse and keyboard and I get all the info on the display screen plus through the setpoint software I can configure the hotkeys.
So the logitech MX-5000 set works great with the internal bluetooth.
Goodluck all.
Brandon
The above was one post on Notebook Forum, click the message to see the
whole thread, (there had been others as well).
"...You will not be able to recharge your mouse ..."
You can still plug the Hub into the wall (without connecting USB)
and use its charging functions. You can also get an Ni-MH CHARGER
from Radio Shack that comes with four Ni-MH AA's for $21 or so.
"... * Logitech cannot test all possible combinations of installation
with every manufacturer of built-in Bluetooth. We cannot guarantee the
Logitech Bluetooth devices will work according to our specifications. ..."
That says it all, * Logitech cannot possibly test them all and they
are CYA safe by making that statement.
One final point would be that before changing your Dell BT Stack,
you could give one try to the latest Dell TM350 released last Friday,
I do doubt that it will do what you want, but others have been
reporting improved BT Mouse function with it.
Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth Internal Module, Driver, Windows 2000,
Windows XP, English, Multi System, v.v3.03.02D, A00
Release Date: 11/10/2005
Once again the entire paragraph above is also a link to the site:)
Frichie79
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November 16th, 2005 07:00
Thanks for all the help Art,
Both forums are really good, hopefully i can sort my BT out soon.
I didnt get a chnace to fix it last night. One !? How do I remove the bluetooth stacks, is it just a case of removing programs, or do i have to edit my registry etc. I came across another post that said i had to delete 3 files.
Will let you know if i solve the problem.
Iain
Art
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November 16th, 2005 13:00
No registry visit needed that I know of, I had seen a mention of it from someone
wanting to go from the Dell/Toshiba Stack to the Windows Sp2 Stack, others have
done that with no Registry Edits.
I had always just used Control Panel; Add/Remove and then checked Device Manager
to see if anything was left. (You should always remove a previous Stack prior to
install of a new Stack, even the same brand.)
SUMMARY
This article discusses how to remove Bluetooth wireless device
support from Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2).
MORE INFORMATION
By default, Windows XP SP2 installs Bluetooth wireless device support when you
install Windows XP SP2 to a computer. After installation,
if a Bluetooth wireless device or radio is detected,
Device Manager will install the driver for the Bluetooth device. ..."
It had been my experience that the Windows Driver would only 'install' if it
saw a Bluetooth without a driver, however if this occured, it would then stall
the installation of another driver at the point that it expected to 'see' your
Bluetooth.
I would recommend doing the above procedure (easy to undo the 're-name' should
you ever need an MS Stack to install) and then check CP; Add and Remove for any
Dell Bluetooth Software.
With the TM300, I have never had a Toshiba Stack and as long as you copy and save
a current copy of your Registry first, removing those Registry items with caution
should help prevent Toshiba's Stack from wanting to reinstall.
Removing a Driver just places it in a backup location for Windows to access at
any time in the future for you to "Roll-Back" or "Up-Date" and it could be
possible that those Registry entries are to put Toshiba at the head of the
line (in front of MS Stack).
Art
Frichie79
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November 17th, 2005 10:00
I got it working, everything is sweet now.
I founf a useful document on the toshiba website on how to remove their stack which comes with the Dell 350 drivers, and replace it with the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack 2.0
Once that was installed, i rebooted, and loaded the setpoint software, setpoint picked up that i had another bluetooth stack to control the k&m and it did not install the bluetooth hub drivers. So when i rebooted, i removed the hub, and on start up setpoint connected to the MS stack and everything works.
Mouse seemed a bit sluggish even on the fastest speed, so i had to increase the windows settings.
I just wonder if the Logitech Bluetooth Hub 2.0 EDR is not going to be a better connection.
I read some reviews on the Logitech MX-5000, and seems half the people got faulty devices and the other half got awesome ones.
Hopefully i am one of the luckier ones.
Cheers
Iain