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December 22nd, 2004 18:00

Any USB 2.0 PCI card supported by C/Dock II?

I tried installing a Belkin F5U5508 (2 USB 2.0 ports and 2 1394 Firewire ports) on the C/Dock II station but BIOS (V05) on my c810 latitude would stop at boot-time ("Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility"). When I press F1, bootup proceed to completion and the card seems to work fine but then I would get bluescreens that might be related to the card (got no bluescreen since I removed the card). I called Belkin and they confirmed it is not designed for docking stations (although their site makes no mention of this).
 
Is anyone aware of a USB 2.0 PCI card (with a FireWire port also would be even better) that is compatible with the C/Dock II?
 
Thank you,
henri

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February 7th, 2005 01:00

It seems like alot of people have had problems with USB pci cards in their C/Dock II Expansion Stations, so I'll share my experiences with everyone to hopefully help out someone.

I have a Dell Latitude C600 with a A23 bios running Windows XP with SP2 and latest Dell OS updates with a C/Dock II expansion station.

At first a bought a generic USB pci card that had a VIA 6212L chipset and I had similar problems to what other users have had: Windows would recognise the usb card and load the drivers fine, but when I went to use the ports, XP would say "Device not recognised, blah, blah, blah".

I drove myself nuts for a few hours trying to figure out the problem, and at one stage I got an MP3 player working through the ports for a short amount of time, so I then thought that it might be the chipset not working with the station properly.

So after a little while of testing out different USB pci cards with my docking station and laptop in various pc stores, I found one that worked beautifully.

It was this card: http://www.swann.com.au/show_item.php?item=17

Its a 4+1 card with an NEC D720100AGM chipset.

So I've come to the conclusion that the C/Dock is a little picky about the chipset's in pci cards, and that the VIA 6212L Chipset definitely doesn't work from my experiences.

So what I'd suggest is:

1. Try to find a USB pci card with an NEC D720100AGM chipset.

2. Even better, take your laptop and docking station (with a USB 2.0 device and maybe a screwdriver) around to pc stores and test it in the stores. If the store won't do it, they're not worthy of your business, so just find one that will test it out.
(P.S. You'll find with a little bit of flattery and kindness, most salespeople will jump over themselves to help you).

If you happen to find another USB pci card with a different chipset that works beautifully, please post back what the chipset is, so other people can too enjoy the pleasures of DVD burning in 8mins!

(P.S. I'm still getting the message at startup that says "Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility" after the card was installed, but I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with the profiles, so I'll fix it up when I get time and post the results).

(P.P.S. Moderators, I'm going to post this same post in similar threads to help out the greatest amount of people, I hope this isn't against the rules, and if it is, I hope you'll allow it in the interest of community).

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February 7th, 2005 02:00

Well,  I don't have access to a C6x0 system to test with,  but my C800 and C840 systems both boot and work great with a C-Dock II and a Belkin 5 Port (4 + 1) PCI USB2 card.  According to the silk-screen it is "F5U220 PCI REV:3".  This card has the NEC D720101GJ chip on it,  and it does not give me the "F1" at startup problem you describe.  I also have a Belkin 3 port Firewire card in the second slot of my C-Dock II and it also works like a champ for me.

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February 16th, 2005 12:00

drat. i've got the same thing here too... c600 with c/dock II. my generic card won't work. i dont like the troubles this device gives me =)

firewire didn't trouble me at all, just plugged in and had a good time.

i get a pcmcia usb 2.0 right away...

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April 25th, 2005 09:00

Hi, I'm suffering the same problem. Latitude C600 A23 Win XP Pro SP2/CDockII.

I have tried two different USB2 cards in the Dock. I always get the "Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility" message.

The first card, an EIO DM-8007 with the VIA VT6202 chip appears to load OK but as soon as I plug a device into one of the ports the whole system freezes and I have to carry out a power off re-boot. If I have a device connected to one of the USB2 ports during boot, the system hangs at sometime, but not always at the same point, during the boot.

The second card is a Belkin with the NEC D720101GJ chip. I still get the error message but once I have selected F1 the system boots and USB2 devices are recognised and operate fine at USB2 speed.
 
The problem appears to be twofold. The first, the error message, which clears on F1. The second is the card with the VIA chipset (so what's new).
 
Any ideas to resolve the error message requiring F1 on every boot would be appreciated.
 
I have sent a tech support request to Dell. The reply to which was not a lot of help, as you can see. I've pasted the reply below and sent my own reply back to Dell but I'm still waiting for an answer to that.
 

Dell's Anwer:

"Thank you for contacting Dell Hardware E-Support & Services.

I understand from your message that you are getting Error: "Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility" when trying to add a 5 port High speed USB PCI card to the C/Dock.

Your system has an usb of 1.1 version. So if you need to use any usb device it should be usb 1.1 or lesser version only.

NOTE: The usb port in a DELL notebook is integrated to the motherboard. If you need to upgrade the usb then you need to upgrade the whole motherboard. Motherboard upgrade may cause lot of hardware conflicts in the system.

So we at DELL don't support USB upgrades.

Thank you for choosing Dell.

Regards,

Vishwanath.S

Dell Hardware e-Support."

 

Message Edited by philglyde on 04-25-2005 01:03 PM

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April 26th, 2005 14:00

Yea, philglyde, that response from Dell was pretty useless. To be honest with you, I believe most of the people at the indian call centre/s are basically phone monkeys and have no technical knowledge of their own.

I think this whole problem could probably be resolved by a BIOS firmware upgrade, the last one over 2 years ago, so its about time.

I'm going to try playing through the bios settings to see if I can get this problem to go away, but I think only a bios upgrade will do it.

In the meantime, I'll try to contact someone at Dell that actually has some idea, or can pass it on, about a new BIOS firmware revision being needed for the C600.

P.S. I wonder if the C6000 motherboard can be cross flashed with a different Bios from another model?(that has the same motherboard, of course) That could solve the problem too.

I'll look into it and post back any info I have.

Message Edited by TRHR on 04-27-2005 03:57 AM

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April 26th, 2005 15:00

Hi, Thanks for the reply.

The next Dell suggestion, that would "definitely fix the problem" was to update the BIOS. It ignored the fact that in my first support request I said that I had already taken the BIOS to A23, which I believe is the latest for the C600. I asked Dell to look at a BIOS update to resolve the problem.

We shall wait and see!!!

Message Edited by philglyde on 04-26-2005 01:54 PM

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April 27th, 2005 13:00

Hi, Dell's latest offering of support HELP!!!
 
"Thank you for contacting Dell Hardware E-Support & Services.
I had escalated this issue to my technical manager & also check the DELL internal resources. Right now there is no solution for this issue.
There seems to be a conflict with the third party USB 2 device & the system.
Note: Dell can only offer technical support and guarantee compatibility for components that ship pre-installed at the factory when you first bought your computer. We do not validate or support after- market hardware/software for upgrading Dell computers. Your primary source of support for troubleshooting an aftermarket product will be the manufacturer of that product.
Kind Regards,
Vishwanath.S
Dell E-Support and Services"
 
Well thanks Dell.
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