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July 6th, 2017 02:00
Inspiron 7720 doesn't boot sometimes
Hello!
I have quite a situation with my don't-remember-how-much old laptop (>3 years is for sure), which's Inspiron 17R 7720-6167 with dual boot Windows + Ubuntu on two different HDDs.
Not a long time ago, my computer started to not boot sometimes. Not boot means: power button glows all the time, hdds start to spin as I can hear, cpu n all started working, all leds started glowing correctly, but puff, and just... silence. Power button still glows, though, just as a side led for "Power". But it just silently does nothing. No hdds spinning, no "beeps" from BIOS, no glowing of other side led (except for Power one ofc). Oh, and power supply led glows ok too.
But, if I leave it for some time, laptop will likely boot. Diagnostics showed nothing particular: everything is ok, except not having a battery (got a warning for it 1y ago or so, didnt really need a new one) and short self test failure for the main drive. I will list SMART-test result for this drive below.
Other symptoms:
Noticed that Ubuntu sometimes freezes during any IO-heavy operation, such as copying of a lot of files/big files.
Encountered a few errors during copying on external drives, such as unremovable folders or something. E.g. I deleted folder with files, but the folder itself stayed not touched, and gave me 0x80004005 error out of blue next time I tried to delete. Standard Windows error fixing for drives fixed it, though.
Tryed removing memory. Beeps 2 times just as expected. But if I put it back, 4 times out of blue. Ok, I moved to another slot (have one 8gb module), worked ok. Strange.
It's not covered by guarantee, I guess, as I had, afaik, standard 1 year one. That's why I seek for help from you guys.
Thanks!
SMART test for Main HDD that failed short self test in Diagnostics:
HDDScan S.M.A.R.T. Report
Model: WDC WD10JPVT-75A1YT0
Firmware: 01.01A01
Serial: WXS1E32TUJYK
LBA: 1953525168
Report By: HDDScan for Windows version 3.3
Report Date: 7/6/2017 7:35:09 AM
Num Attribute Name Value Worst Raw(hex) Threshold
001 Raw Read Error Rate 200 200 0000000000-0629 051
003 Spin Up Time 183 178 0000000000-0731 021
004 Start/Stop Count 093 093 0000000000-1B81 000
005 Reallocation Sector Count 200 200 0000000000-0000 140
007 Seek Error Rate 200 200 0000000000-0000 000
009 Power-On Hours Count 079 079 0000000000-3C37 000
010 Spin Retry Count 100 100 0000000000-0000 000
011 Recalibration Retries 100 100 0000000000-0000 000
012 Device Power Cycle Count 095 095 0000000000-15BB 000
191 G-sense Rate/Servo tracking 001 001 0000000000-06BE 000
192 Emergency Retract Count 200 200 0000000000-028B 000
193 Load/unload Cycle Count 175 175 0000000001-309C 000
194 HDA Temperature 103 079 44 C 000
196 Reallocation Event Count 200 200 0000000000-0000 000
197 Current Pending Errors Count 200 200 0000000000-0001 000
198 Uncorrectable Errors Count 100 253 0000000000-0000 000
199 UltraDMA CRC Errors 200 200 0000000000-0000 000
200 Multi Zone Error Rate 200 200 0000000000-0001 000
240 Heads Flying Hours 080 080 0000000000-3A70 000
241 Total Host Writes 200 200 00000F568D-54C8 000
242 Total Host Reads 200 200 00001308BF-280B 000
254 G-shock/Free-fall Event Count 200 200 0000000000-0000 000


ejn63
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July 6th, 2017 05:00
"SMART test for Main HDD that failed short self test in Diagnostics:"
The hard drive is failing - replace it with a new one and reload the OS - that'll take care of it.
ejn63
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July 6th, 2017 05:00
A drive that fails its SMART test is on its way out - that's not a guess, it's a fact. Hard drives can fail in a host of ways - this one sounds like it's having trouble reading on startup (when cooler) while it reads OK once warmed up. In any case it's clear it needs to be replaced.
You won't know if the hard drive is the only problem until your replace it. If doing so doesn't solve all the problems, it may be you have others - though failure of the CPU or chipset is by far not common. Since a hard drive costs about $50 whereas a board replacement will cost many times that, start with the hard drive first.
If the system really does need a mainboard replacement, whether that's an economic proposition is up to you give the relatively advanced age of this system.
foxthroat
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July 6th, 2017 05:00
You guessed it from SMART report? Just to be clear.
I'm actually thinking about replacing hdd, yeah. My only concern is that, to me, it hardly looks like hdd failure. Like, IO-heavy operations didn't use, if i remember correctly, this problematic drive.
And this thing with no-boot silence. Could it REALLY be because of failing drive?
It can't be, for example, southbridge?
foxthroat
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July 27th, 2017 02:00
Well, I changed drive, didn't help at all. Same thing.
What I noticed though is that 3rd led button, top right, works sometimes too. Usually it makes simple ping pong pattern with light, and sometimes 3rd one doesn't work.
Soon... Not hdd, what then?