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October 2nd, 2012 16:00
Plugged In, Not Charging Issue
Hi,
I've seen there have been a lot of issues with this but yet to find an answer to the problem. I have a Dell XPS Laptop. When I first got the laptop brand new, I had this problem and then it stopped for quite a while, now it has started to happen again. Firstly, I get this error message come up if it is not connected properly:
'The AC power adapter type cannot be determined.
Your system will operate slower and battery will not charge.
This problem might be solved by:
- Ensure the plug is inserted completely for best system operation.
- Connect a Dell 130W adapter or higher'
The battery indicator on my laptop flashes orange a few times to remind me that it is not connecting properly, and when I hover over the battery icon on the desktop it says, plugged in, not charging.
I manage to get it into a position eventually where it charges, and once its in that position, it charges fine, even if I move it around.
A little while ago I also spilt a hot chocolate (that was cold) over the left hand side of the keyboard, which is where the charger plugs in (but at the back) but there is a speaker on that side that a bit of it seeped in. We have inspected it since and can't see any damage and seeing as I had this problem when it was brand new also, I don't believe this to be the issue.
I am thinking of sending it off, as I have knowhow insurance on it, but I would really rather not if I can help it.
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ejn63
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October 2nd, 2012 16:00
Check the BIOS setup - if the AC adapter is listed as "unknown", try another adapter. If it too isn't sensed, given that you know there's been a spill, it's very likely the charging circuit has been damaged. That may require a replacement power board (if the system has one) or a replacement mainboard if it does not.
PIST Off Paul
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October 2nd, 2012 21:00
Hey Einstein, the problem was in the computer. All it took was talking to someone who spoke english.
PIST Off Paul
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October 2nd, 2012 22:00
What you are seeing is the standard 95 watt power supply that Dell ships with new machines. It works fine but the 130 works a bit better (more expensive and you will not notice the difference in most cases) This warning can be turned off in BIOS a quick google search will walk you through it.
The next part is what I was just dealing with and ejn63 was of no help. If you have just the standard new or extended warranty and Dell notes ANY "damage" they will not cover anything. If they notice the keyboard being scratched (as in my case) they will not cover the motherboard being defective. Unless you talk to an English speaking american you will not get help. I had to talk to a woman in Consumer Public Relations to get assistance. I hope this is of some help. If you have just the standard warranty that covers hardware you better upgrade before you send it in.
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October 3rd, 2012 01:00
DELL-John C
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October 3rd, 2012 03:00
Hi there,
Firstly, I'm sorry to hear that you've had this problem with your system and please be assured that I'll give you all the relevant information you need. As far as I can see, the main problem in getting service is the fact that there has been a liquid spillage to the system which means that the system has to be classed as accidentally damaged. Unless, you have Dell's Accidental Damage Protection, the basic warranty will not cover you for any accidental damage. You mentioned that you have Knowhow insurance - this isn't a Dell insurance offering and more than likely will be an offering from the retail shop where you purchased the XPS system.
That said, it may just be a problem with the AC adapter rather than the system itself. In this instance, the steps that ejn63 are exactly what we would ask you to try (presuming you have another AC adapter). Another step to try is to connect the AC adapter to the mains only. If you see an LED on the AC adapter when it is connected to the mains, connect it to the system and check the AC adapter LED again, making a note of whether or not the LED stays on or goes off when you connect it to the system.
Also, check the AC adapter jack and the AC adapter socket for any damage. Pay special attention to the AC adapter jack. This should have a pin in the middle which should not be bent or damaged in anyway as this can cause the exact symptom you've described.
If the AC adapter has no physical signs of damage and the AC adapter is not recognised in the BIOS, I would say that in this case it may be necessary to replace internal components and due to the liquid spillage, this would not be covered under the warranty. I would advise you to read the Knowhow insurance terms and conditions to see what exactly that covers.
RandomPanda
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October 3rd, 2012 04:00
When it initially happened i rung up knowhow and it is covered, so that is not the problem. But I do not have a spare AC
DELL-John C
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October 3rd, 2012 06:00
If you don't have a spare AC adapter, it's very difficult to prove that the AC adapter itself is the cause of the problem. If you can try connecting the AC adapter to the mains only, you may prove that the AC adapter is the cause if there is no LED lit on the AC adapter when you plug it into the mains only.
If there is an LED on the AC adapter, it's likely that the cause is the motherboard itself in which case I would advise you to contact the company responsible for the Knowhow cover about raising a claim on their cover.
speedstep
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October 3rd, 2012 06:00
The 130's are not as useful as the 150's I prefer to use PA-15 because they last longer.
If a new adapter does not fix the problem then the motherboard has to be replaced.
Genuine Dell PA-15 Family 150W Power Brick Cord AC Adapter Charger With 3 Foot (ft.) or 6 Foot (ft.) Power Cord Included, For Inspiron 5150, 5160, 9100, 9200, Precision M90, M6300, M6400, XPS Gen 2, M170, M1710, M2010, Alienware M15X Laptop/Notebook Systems, Compatible Part/Model Numbers: PA-15, D8406, 9Y819, D1078, D1404, D232H, D2746, FC892, K5294, N3834, N3838, PH298, TC887, TC912, W1828, W7758, X408G, X7329, X9366, ADP-150EB, AP11, 310-4180, 310-6580, 310-7848, 310-7849, 310-8275, 310-8537, 320-2746, 330-1829, 330-1830, PA-1131-02D, PA-1151-06D, PA-1151-06D2
MicroTest
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October 3rd, 2012 09:00
I keep posting the video below because in some cases it made sense to the user and they were able to fix the problem: