I downloaded drivers to floppy and used F6 to go into page to load raid drivers, but, there are a bunch to choose from. When it says to select the scsi Adapter you want from the list, I don't know which to use, or, how to find out the correct adapter.
I am having exactly the same problem. I've installed a Toshiba MK2431 240GB drive in my D430. The D430 BIOS identifies it correctly. The Windows XP install media I have available claims there is no hard drive there. I also tried making a BartPE thumb drive, booted from that and tried the DiskPart utility, but it didn't see the drive either.
I have a Dell Vista install DVD on hand from my E4300, so I tried that, and it saw the drive and successfully installed. I don't want Vista; I need XP for some legacy stuff, but at least that proves the hard drive is working.
My current theory (hope) is that for some reason I need original Dell install media (like the Vista disk), so I've ordered a Dell XP disk for the D430. I hope when it arrives it solves the issue.
I've seen a number of well meaning, but unhelpful suggestions to set the hard drive controller to SATA, or AHCI, etc. The D430 BIOS has no such settings. Everything to do with the disk controller and hard disk is read only in the BIOS, unless I've overlooked something, which is always possible.
Still trying to get the MK2431 to work in the Dell D430 with Windows XP. Here is what I've found so far.
Vista will install to the drive just fine.
Slipstreaming the Intel AHCI drivers from the Rapid Storage Technology site does not help. BTW, the chipset for the D430 is 82945GMS and the ICH7M controller is 82801GBM or maybe GHM. I now suspect that the AHCI drivers only help for SATA drives, not for IDE drives and the D430 uses an IDE drive.
The drive works fine as an external USB drive.
One of the Advanced Format Drive detection tools reports that this drive has 512 bytes per logical sector, but 4096 bytes per physical sector. So, it is, indeed, an Advanced Format Drive (AFD).
So there's some driver or something in Vista which can see this drive, but it is missing from XP.
I suspect that the AHCI drivers for XP only add support for *SATA* advanced format drives and not for IDE drives. I also suspect that Vista has support for AFD regardless of the interface.
This Toshiba MK2431 ZIF/IDE drive may be the only PATA drive in existence which is an Advanced Format Drive, and so it seems to have fallen through the cracks of XP.
I am having the same problems with installing XP on a Dell D430 laptop (except that it has Toshiba MK 8009GAH HDD).
I was exploring the hardware (HDD) with a utility in the Ultimate Boot CD when I found the error "MCB Chain Corrupted".
After long struggle, I gave up with the XP and installed UBUNTU on the Laptop. After the installation, I looked at the hardware which identified HDD as SCSI (SCA). I am not sure why the HDD is is identified as SCSI and not IDE/EIDE, and what the above error really means.
Wondering if anyone ever found a solution to this problem?
I'm experiencing the same problem trying to install XP Pro (W/SP3) on a 1.8in Toshiba MK2431GAH ZIF drive mounted in a Dell D430. The XP Installer will NOT recognize the installed drive, even though BIOS reports a 240GB drive. I went to the Toshiba web site and thought I'd found the answer with their Paragon Alignment tool. It reads like it is the solution to this problem. However, I have been totally unsuccessful at using it, and a call to their tech support folks revealed they believe this utility is only for SATA drives (while this is an EIDE). Here is the link to the tool:
Note that Windows 7 installed on this machine, recognizing and accessing this particular drive without any problems of any kind. So, that eliminates various hardware and BIOS issues. The issue seems to be with XP. Has anyone found any 3rd party drivers that solve this? Or have we given up, as I'm about to do?
Have you actually tried this and had it work with the MK2431?
A few notes for clarities sake:
The MK2431 is a PATA drive. The interface in the D430 is PATA. AFD = Advanced Format Drive.
I ask, because I did slipstream the Intel RST drivers into the XP install disk. I also tried the various matrix storage drivers. I carefully identified the chipset used in the D430 and made sure I was using the correct versions of the drivers for the D430.
None of those efforts succeeded in installing XP on an MK2431 in the D430. I probably tried a few dozen other variations and solutions as well.
The MK2431 is most definitely an Advanced Format Drive (AFD). I have confirmed that with getpartd (IIRC) which reports 4KB physical sectors and 512 byte logical sectors. I tried various partitioning schemes as well.
My hypothesis is that all the drivers which will add AFD support only do so for SATA drives/interfaces. You would think that the support would be added high enough in the tree that it wouldn't matter whether the drive is SATA or ATA, but that does not appear to be the case.
The MK2431 is probably the only PATA drive ever made which is also an AFD. Hence the hole in the support.
In Windows Vista, and later, support for AFD appears to be high enough in the tree that it supports both SATA and PATA, but the add-on support for XP only seems to work for SATA AFDs.
That is my experience. If someone else can clearly state that they have personally installed an MK2431 in a D430 and installed XP on it successfully, I would love to read about how it was accomplished.
But did you do this with an MK2431 hard drive? And if so, any chance you would make an image of the CD available? Because my efforts along those lines seem to have failed.
I have the same HDD I bought from eBay, I even went one step further and tried to clone the partition from my old hard disk I used to have in my D430 (before I upgraded to 240GB Toshiba drive) and it failed with BSOD. I tried aligning partitions, dozen of different partitioning tools.... no success... I gave up and installed Win7. I just wonder if anyone ever managed to install Windows XP on that model of hard disk?
Many of these drives aren't compatible with XP as they use 4k byte sectors not 512. This explains why I had no problem with an Ubuntu boot disk, but couldn't get anything to work with XP. For example a toshiba MK6036GAL is incompatible with XP but a MK6028GAL will work with XP. Hope this saves someone the frustration I went through before I figured this out.
ejn63
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September 25th, 2010 04:00
You will need to prepare a new XP CD with the Intel SATA drivers on it.
The drivers are here:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=2800&DwnldID=17413&lang=eng
There are many ways to prepare the disc - the general procedure is here:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/How-To--Slipstream-your-XP-installation
Easter3
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September 26th, 2010 01:00
Hi and thanks for the quick response. I just tried this with slipstreaming and received the following error:
Line 4667 of the INF file \i386\txtsetup.sif is invalid. Setup cannot continue. Press any key to exit.
I tried googling the error, but, the answers I found don't seem to apply here. Not sure what to try next.
Easter3
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September 26th, 2010 01:00
Hi, a quick follow up.
I downloaded drivers to floppy and used F6 to go into page to load raid drivers, but, there are a bunch to choose from. When it says to select the scsi Adapter you want from the list, I don't know which to use, or, how to find out the correct adapter.
trag
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March 15th, 2012 14:00
I am having exactly the same problem. I've installed a Toshiba MK2431 240GB drive in my D430. The D430 BIOS identifies it correctly. The Windows XP install media I have available claims there is no hard drive there. I also tried making a BartPE thumb drive, booted from that and tried the DiskPart utility, but it didn't see the drive either.
I have a Dell Vista install DVD on hand from my E4300, so I tried that, and it saw the drive and successfully installed. I don't want Vista; I need XP for some legacy stuff, but at least that proves the hard drive is working.
My current theory (hope) is that for some reason I need original Dell install media (like the Vista disk), so I've ordered a Dell XP disk for the D430. I hope when it arrives it solves the issue.
I've seen a number of well meaning, but unhelpful suggestions to set the hard drive controller to SATA, or AHCI, etc. The D430 BIOS has no such settings. Everything to do with the disk controller and hard disk is read only in the BIOS, unless I've overlooked something, which is always possible.
trag
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August 15th, 2012 14:00
Still trying to get the MK2431 to work in the Dell D430 with Windows XP. Here is what I've found so far.
Vista will install to the drive just fine.
Slipstreaming the Intel AHCI drivers from the Rapid Storage Technology site does not help. BTW, the chipset for the D430 is 82945GMS and the ICH7M controller is 82801GBM or maybe GHM. I now suspect that the AHCI drivers only help for SATA drives, not for IDE drives and the D430 uses an IDE drive.
The drive works fine as an external USB drive.
One of the Advanced Format Drive detection tools reports that this drive has 512 bytes per logical sector, but 4096 bytes per physical sector. So, it is, indeed, an Advanced Format Drive (AFD).
So there's some driver or something in Vista which can see this drive, but it is missing from XP.
I suspect that the AHCI drivers for XP only add support for *SATA* advanced format drives and not for IDE drives. I also suspect that Vista has support for AFD regardless of the interface.
This Toshiba MK2431 ZIF/IDE drive may be the only PATA drive in existence which is an Advanced Format Drive, and so it seems to have fallen through the cracks of XP.
al_0069
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September 12th, 2012 23:00
I am having the same problems with installing XP on a Dell D430 laptop (except that it has Toshiba MK 8009GAH HDD).
I was exploring the hardware (HDD) with a utility in the Ultimate Boot CD when I found the error "MCB Chain Corrupted".
After long struggle, I gave up with the XP and installed UBUNTU on the Laptop. After the installation, I looked at the hardware which identified HDD as SCSI (SCA). I am not sure why the HDD is is identified as SCSI and not IDE/EIDE, and what the above error really means.
ZetaByte
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April 8th, 2013 09:00
Wondering if anyone ever found a solution to this problem?
I'm experiencing the same problem trying to install XP Pro (W/SP3) on a 1.8in Toshiba MK2431GAH ZIF drive mounted in a Dell D430. The XP Installer will NOT recognize the installed drive, even though BIOS reports a 240GB drive. I went to the Toshiba web site and thought I'd found the answer with their Paragon Alignment tool. It reads like it is the solution to this problem. However, I have been totally unsuccessful at using it, and a call to their tech support folks revealed they believe this utility is only for SATA drives (while this is an EIDE). Here is the link to the tool:
storage.toshiba.com/.../af-alignment-tool
Note that Windows 7 installed on this machine, recognizing and accessing this particular drive without any problems of any kind. So, that eliminates various hardware and BIOS issues. The issue seems to be with XP. Has anyone found any 3rd party drivers that solve this? Or have we given up, as I'm about to do?
ejn63
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April 8th, 2013 09:00
You'll need to prepare a new XP boot CD with
SP3 integrated and
The install mode SATA driver on it:
downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx
There are a number of ways to do the integration - BartPE, nLite, etc.
trag
6 Posts
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April 8th, 2013 12:00
Have you actually tried this and had it work with the MK2431?
A few notes for clarities sake:
The MK2431 is a PATA drive. The interface in the D430 is PATA. AFD = Advanced Format Drive.
I ask, because I did slipstream the Intel RST drivers into the XP install disk. I also tried the various matrix storage drivers. I carefully identified the chipset used in the D430 and made sure I was using the correct versions of the drivers for the D430.
None of those efforts succeeded in installing XP on an MK2431 in the D430. I probably tried a few dozen other variations and solutions as well.
The MK2431 is most definitely an Advanced Format Drive (AFD). I have confirmed that with getpartd (IIRC) which reports 4KB physical sectors and 512 byte logical sectors. I tried various partitioning schemes as well.
My hypothesis is that all the drivers which will add AFD support only do so for SATA drives/interfaces. You would think that the support would be added high enough in the tree that it wouldn't matter whether the drive is SATA or ATA, but that does not appear to be the case.
The MK2431 is probably the only PATA drive ever made which is also an AFD. Hence the hole in the support.
In Windows Vista, and later, support for AFD appears to be high enough in the tree that it supports both SATA and PATA, but the add-on support for XP only seems to work for SATA AFDs.
That is my experience. If someone else can clearly state that they have personally installed an MK2431 in a D430 and installed XP on it successfully, I would love to read about how it was accomplished.
al_0069
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April 8th, 2013 18:00
Yes.
First I integrated SP3 with XP using nLite. Then I used this CD to install XP on Dell 430.
trag
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April 9th, 2013 09:00
But did you do this with an MK2431 hard drive? And if so, any chance you would make an image of the CD available? Because my efforts along those lines seem to have failed.
PCbase011
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April 9th, 2013 20:00
I have the same HDD I bought from eBay, I even went one step further and tried to clone the partition from my old hard disk I used to have in my D430 (before I upgraded to 240GB Toshiba drive) and it failed with BSOD. I tried aligning partitions, dozen of different partitioning tools.... no success... I gave up and installed Win7. I just wonder if anyone ever managed to install Windows XP on that model of hard disk?
frogOne
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August 2nd, 2013 16:00
Many of these drives aren't compatible with XP as they use 4k byte sectors not 512. This explains why I had no problem with an Ubuntu boot disk, but couldn't get anything to work with XP. For example a toshiba MK6036GAL is incompatible with XP but a MK6028GAL will work with XP. Hope this saves someone the frustration I went through before I figured this out.