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December 18th, 2012 04:00

My experience with XPS 12 Windows 8 software issues

I think I'm one of the earlier adopters of XPS 12, and even though I'm experiencing significantly lesser issues than what the others have brought up, there are three persistent ones that will rear their ugly heads once in awhile... Two of them are simply consuming about 30% of the CPU but don't appear to be doing anything, and this makes the fan spin up till annoying speeds. The only way out is to restart the PC so that the fan will run at its usual quieter speed. The third actually causes a BSOD...

My machine is the higher-spec-ed i7 + 8 GB + 256 GB SSD one, and if it's worth mentioning, I'm running it with the latest version of BitDefender.

So, does anyone know if these are known issues with Windows 8 that affect other PCs, or are they really something to do with Dell's choice of drivers/configuration?

 

1) Boot Configuration Editor (bcdedit.exe)
I'm only booting up Windows 8 and haven't made any fanciful changes to startup items or startup options, so why does this kick in once in awhile?

 

2) Volume Shadow Copy
This seems to be started by the regular maintenance activity, not sure why is this running too since I'm not using the File History feature. I've read online that it's best not to manually terminate it, so how can I go about ensuring that it either completes quickly, or not start in the first place?

 

3) *The BSOD one* Wireless connection not working, putting it to standby and resuming triggers a DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION BSOD
Sometimes, the wireless connection will refuse to work, and if I follow this by a quick standby/resume, it will BSOD with the above error.

I've my fair share of criticism for the Cypress touchpad drivers and I know there has been other complaints about that too, so here's hoping we'll get better drivers... I'm sticking with the touchscreen always, unless I require some precise mouse movements (e.g. small buttons)

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December 22nd, 2012 07:00

Ok so Process Explorer tells me the parent process for bcedit.exe is pcdrcui.exe aka PC Doctor aka Dell Support Center app! What's going on here, why does it need to start bcdedit in the background doing nothing except to use 30% of the CPU cycles?

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December 22nd, 2012 07:00

Ok so Process Explorer tells me the parent process for bcedit.exe is pcdrcui.exe aka PC Doctor aka Dell Support Center app! What's going on here, why does it need to start bcdedit in the background doing nothing except to use 30% of the CPU cycles?

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December 28th, 2012 06:00

VSS is flaring up now...

(from event log)

Volume Shadow Copy Service Warning: A writer with name ASR Writer and ID {be000cbe-11fe-4426-9c58-531aa6355fc4} waited 4294967 seconds for in-progress calls to complete before shutting down.

After a little digging I found these information:

msdn.microsoft.com/.../bb968827(v=vs.85).aspx

answers.microsoft.com/.../9b501aa0-cd7f-e011-9b4b-68b599b31bf5

backupchain.com/.../Troubleshooting.html

I'm just going ahead to uninstall the Backup and Recovery tool first and see if these problems go away or not...

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December 29th, 2012 11:00

Do you have the same bcdedit problem too?

I'm only highlighting the dptf one as it generated an event log right about the time bcdedit flared up for me

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December 29th, 2012 11:00

bcdedit is flaring up now...

(from event log - suspected related cause)

The description for Event ID 1 from source DptfPolicyLpmServiceHelper cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event:

DptfPolicyLpmServiceHelper

CreateSharedMemory:  CreateFileMapping() failed.

Last error = [0x00000005]

Seems to be related to Intel's software, and I see it as part of my startup items...

systemexplorer.net/.../dptfpolicylpmservicehelper-exe

Safe to disable this for startup?

Actually, after a bit more Googling...

forum.notebookreview.com/.../650572-new-dell-xps-l521x-ivy-bridge-536.html

"To ensure that the maximum temperature won't be reached there are different power modulation schemes, and the temperature threshold can be set by the manufacturer. And 90°C sounds a common temperature, because it is exactly 15°C less than the max allowable temperature."

" LPM is only available using the Intel DPTF

driver.

Through the DPTF driver, LPM can be configured to use each of the following methods

to reduce active power:

• Restricting Turbo Boost Power limits and IA core Turbo Boost availability

• Off-Lining core activity (Move processor traffic to a subset of cores)

• Placing an IA Core at LFM or MFM (Minimum Frequency Mode)

• Utilizing IA clock modulation

"

However, if the bcdedit issue is related to this dptfpolicylpmservicehelper.exe (actually it does look like bcdedit did something really wrong, causing the latter to step in and somehow encounter an error too, thus the event log)

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December 29th, 2012 11:00

Thanks for this. I'd seen the dptfpolicylpmservicehelper error on my system, but I'd not been able to find anything in Google (and no one at Dell seemed to know what it was, either). Hopefully this helps them track down where the issue lies.

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December 29th, 2012 12:00

I'm not seeing the bcdedit error. But one of the first things I did was uninstall various bits of Dell software I didn't want, including the PC Doctor/Dell Support stuff.

I hadn't looked at the event log in a week (waiting for a whole unit replacement - and have been for 3 weeks now, still no sign of shipping), right now it seems littered with "A multi-touch device reported inconsistent contact information." errors, the dptfpolicy... error, and I'm getting a ton of ESENT errors complaining data is taking an abnormally long time to be written. Windows claims this is likely indicative of a hardware problem. But yeah. My event log looks kind of catastrophic, the number of errors I'm seeing.

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January 9th, 2013 04:00

I was lucky enough to receive my XPS12 i7 256GB SSD configuration just before Christmas, but I'm also finding after using my computer for a while, bcedit.exe appears in the process list and eats up about 30% CPU. This causes a real issue when working on battery (battery drains really quickly).

Reboot obviously gets rid of it (trying to terminate directly results in permission denied errors).

This is really frustrating and spoiling what is otherwise an excellent laptop.

Sounds like this may be a common problem, has anybody yet found a work around - does removing the Dell software help? I've not installed any drivers from Dell's site as I appear to have the latest versions of everything already installed.

 

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January 9th, 2013 14:00

Ok, so that others can benefit from this knowledge:

I uninstalled the Dell Support tool (aka PC Doctor) and the bcdedit processor hogging went away.  I had previously uninstalled the Backup and Recovery tool, so I don't know if that also helps.

But other than regular processor-intensive activities, I've been running all day without bcdedit hogging the CPU and spinning up the fan!

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January 22nd, 2013 13:00

I've not tried removing the Dell Support tool yet, as I want to hang on to it, just in case Dell ping out a notification of some important system or driver update (also has all the testing tools Dell may ask to run), but I agree that it is a very likely culprit.

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February 4th, 2013 08:00

I've removed the Dell support tool, but since doing so, the issue has repeated it self twice in two days. I have a feeling it has something to do with going on to battery power (something I do quite often for short periods of time). Will look at un-installing the backup and recovery tool next (once I've taken a backup!)

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February 9th, 2013 03:00

The issue is still occurring despite removing both Dell Support and Dell Backup utilities.

February 26th, 2013 02:00

I too am seeing the issue of 30% CPU by VSS.

Pretty much making this laptop unusable. 

Any hints how to fix of should I just return it? I have removed all the dell bloat and still have the issue.

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February 26th, 2013 05:00

Wow quite a number of replies here...

Thought it's about time I make my own updates here. I have removed both the Dell "utilities" and the occurrences have drastically reduced. In fact, I think I removed them around New Year and I only recalled three times when the fan spins up again and "Host Processes for Windows Tasks" eats 30% of CPU utilization. So it is working largely for me...

Maybe we should compare by the various batches of laptops too? I got mine in early November.

BTW are there updated drivers for the touchpad? I've noticed that it is recently mistakenly some of my single taps as double taps! I wish I can just disable it outright...

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March 23rd, 2013 13:00

Does anyone else have any idea's?  I'm still seeing frequent occurrences of "Host Process for Windows Tasks" chewing up upwards of 30-40% CPU.  Looking at process explorer, the parent process is simply "services.exe".  I've uninstalled all of the utilities mentioned in this post, and still running into the issue.

Overall, I love this machine, and at least the reboot only takes a few seconds, but it's very annoying having to reboot everytime this "Host Process for Windows Tasks" fires up.

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