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November 14th, 2006 02:00

usb soundcard and static issue

if anyone had trouble running a usb soundcard and was getting static ans stutters i think i narrowed the issue down a bit. As it my card would run fine on battery but has issues with the AC adapter plugged in, which seemed odd since you would think the power would be on max performance. Today i turned off the powerplay option in the ATI settings and then my card stuttered on the battery where it was fine before, so i turned back on the powerplay option and it was running smooth again. So my question is the graphic card does not use as much power when running on the battery so it allows the soundcard to run ok, but once i plug in the ac adapter and the video card get more power it seem to take it away from soundcard, could that be possible? i have an option to usa an ac adapter on the usb soundcard but i have not tired that and might be a simple fix, or is it possible to keep the video card in low power mode? the audio software i use has different skins, and if use a minimal graphic skin it will not stutter but if i use a bigger one it will. So i guess this is really a power issue but it affecting my audio.

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November 14th, 2006 14:00

u can try one more thing. go to the bios setup and reduce the brightness on AC adapter may be that helps.
Whatever the result is lemme know the result on this page

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November 14th, 2006 15:00

i think i tried that, it seems to be specific to the power that video card seems to draw when the ac adapter is plugged in. If i play a game off the battery sometimes the graphics in the game are jerky, but when playing it on the ac its smooth. I believe that to be the difference in why my usb soundcard has issues when just using the ac since the video draws more power, the pc then does not have enough to power the soundcard. Like i said maybe a ac adapter for the soundcard would solve it but i still find it strange that my audio runs smooth on battery.

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November 15th, 2006 20:00

Note, many USB audio devices use your systems processor which may result in stuttering when other applications are putting a load on the processor or pci bus as well. As for static and your other issues, read on..
 
The reason your video runs poorly when the AC power is unplugged, is because your video drivers are set to go into a power saving mode that reduces performance in order to extend battery life.  You can change this to get full gaming performance in your video driver settings, and the system power settings.
 
The reason your audio has a background interference/hum/buzz/static noise when the AC is plugged in, is explained here:
http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/  (or for simpler explainations search google for the words: ground loop static )
 
What causes the humming in audio systems ?

Audio and video systems need a reference point for their voltages. Generally referred to as common or ground, although it may not be actually connected with the earth, this reference remains at "zero volts" while other signal voltages "swing" positive (above) and negative (below) it. Physically, the common may be a wire, a trace on a printed-circuit board, a metal chassis, virtually anything that conducts electricity. Ideally it should be a perfect conductor, but in any practical system it is not. As the complexity and size of the system is increased, the imperfect conductivity of the common (ground) conductor inevitably causes problems.

Hum and buzz (50Hz/60Hz and it's harmonics) occur in unbalanced systems when currents flow in the cable shield connections between different pieces of equipment. Hum and buzz can also occur balanced systems even though they are generally much more

The cable shield currents and ground voltage differences are caused by several mechanisms. The second most common source of hum and buzz is the voltage difference between two safety grounds separated by a large distance or the voltage difference between a safety ground and an "Earth" ground (such as a grounded satellite dish or cable TV source). This problem is usually called "ground loop". This is the most common one in severe humming problems.

Hum and buzz can also be magnetically induced or capacitively induced directly into signal cables. Or the noise current can leak from mains input through capacitance between the A.C. power transformer primary and secondary windings which causes that a portion of the A.C. line voltage will ALWAYS be capacitively coupled directly to audio circuit ground. This capacitivly coupled power line signal will usually contain significant harmonics out to 1MHz or more. These signals will cause currents to flow in the cable shields thus adding this noise directly to the audio signal.

 

Message Edited by E1505x2 on 11-15-200604:51 PM

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November 15th, 2006 23:00

thanks but i have tried the ground loop eliminators and all that it is not a gound loop issue. Its not really a static but more of a cutting of the sound and not a stutter. The reason i believe it runs smooth on battery is simply as you stated the vid card is not using as much power  and the usb card can be properly powered. I will buy an acadapter for the usb sound card and try that.  When i set my vid card to stay on battery settings when ac is plugged in my audio  runs alot better so it seem more of a power issue then anything else.

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November 18th, 2006 23:00

I have the same issues. With two different USB sound cards too. I have been digging into the issue, but I have not found a fix.

Something is going on with the hardware in my 1300. When I am playing audio, I can see the screen glitch the same time the audio skips. According to my snooping into the depths that is windows, nothing load or IRQ related is causing it. No one precesses is also causing it. I have tried many other things I won't go into.

My best guess is something is causing the PCI buss to jump every 5-30 seconds or so. I have not found a cause and none of the BIOS settings I have tried have done anything.

I am quickly running out of options.

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November 19th, 2006 02:00

I don't know if you guys are having the same problem that I am, but I have an SB extigy (External sound card) for my 1505.  The sound is hissing and poppy... however, I am let to believe that it is a fault in my draft-n wireless card that is causing the problem.  The sounds works fine with the card turned off. 
 
This is a known dell issue with this card... See the following post for more info. 
 
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