Well, 2.5 months later and still no A03 BIOS image in the firmware repos :emotion-12:
I am not the only person who is annoyed by the windows-only BIOS updates that Dell provides. I found this related post on ideastorm that seems to have gotten a fair number of votes but no acknowledgment from Dell. I'm still running with my kernel parameter workaround which works fine except for when there are Ubuntu kernel updates. Then I have to go edit the grub config file again before I reboot.
I have no idea why they don't do a better job of updating the repo firmware. Maybe they only release tested BIOS updates? If so, maybe they need an additional "untested" repo? However, they do provide firmware tools for Linux that you should be able to use to extract firmware from the WIndows .EXE file.
I normally install a small DOS partition to make firmware updates easier. Unfortunately, some companies no longer provide DOS-compatible firmware updates, and only give Windows executables. At least Dell still has DOS-compatible firmware,
It isn't only BIOS updaters that often require Windows. Many external devices and even disk drives have firmware updaters or other tools that are available on as Windows programs. Last year I had problems with the system disk on an Apple server. Apple systems are a scarce resource, so rather than running disk tests on an Apple I ran the drive vendor's diagnostics (which required Windows) to generate a report. The drive was an Apple logo model, but Apple accepted the diagnostic report and replaced the drive.
On the other side, a colleague ran updates on a Windows laptop and the wireless stopped working with a message about "failure to initialize". The laptop has a linux partition, so to get on the net he booted linux, where wireless worked. After that, wireless once again worked in Windows. This sounds like some buggy wireless firmware came in the Windows update and was "fixed" by the linux driver.
TOEBEE, WHAT I USUALLY DO IS I KEEP MY ORIGINAL OEM COPY OF WINDOWS XP/VISTA/7 CD/DVD, AND REINSTALL IT ANYTIME THAT I NEED 2 UPDATE MY BIOS, AND THEN UNINSTALL IT AND REVERT BACK 2 LINUX AFTER THE INSTALL, JUST FYI.
If your main problem is the size of the FreeDos boot image, they have a 2.88MB image at their web site
http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/
Dell could , but doesn't make it easy for linux users to update their systems bios . I suspect it has more to do with keeping on the good side of Microsoft, than problems making it work.
I had the same problem. When I installed Linux on my computer (Dell OptiPlex 755), I've deleted my Windows partition. So I burned the Windows BIOS update file on a CD, then boot from a Windows PE CD to finally run the BIOS update utility. The utility didn't reboot the computer so I pressed the power button. The BIOS was flashed successfully at reboot.
Old question, but this still comes up via Google - so since I've now got it working, here's how...
There are two solutions do this:
1. Run the Windows .exe under 'wine' under Linux, and pass it the -writehdrfile command line option e.g.
tim@ermintrude:~/Downloads$ wine O760-A16.exe -writehdrfile tim@ermintrude:~/Downloads$ ls -al O760-A16.hdr -rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 3017988 Oct 7 09:21 O760-A16.hdr
n.b. if the windows executable is unable to write the file (e.g. permissions), you get an unhelpful "check command line arguments" error message.
The other is to use the extract_hdr utility as detailed here:
I just recently had to update the BIOS on some older Optiplex 780s and re-examined this issue. What I ended up doing this time was quite painless. I grabbed a USB thumb drive, used Unetbootin on my desktop Linux Mint machine to create a freedos boot disk and then just dropped the .EXE from Dell's support site onto the USB drive along with the Freedos boot image. After booting from the USB stick (just the "Plain liveCD" option without any of the special memory options) all I had to do was change to C: and execute the .EXE. It took 3 or 4 minutes to update and that was that.
Yes, definitely still helpful. Thank you for posting about '-writehdrfile'; that's exactly what I needed. By the way, I happened I ran the .exe file from DOSBOX instead of Wine, and that works as well.
Another helpful tip: once you have the .HDR file, flashing the ROM is easy from Debian GNU/Linux:
ToeBee
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October 22nd, 2009 14:00
Well, 2.5 months later and still no A03 BIOS image in the firmware repos :emotion-12:
I am not the only person who is annoyed by the windows-only BIOS updates that Dell provides. I found this related post on ideastorm that seems to have gotten a fair number of votes but no acknowledgment from Dell. I'm still running with my kernel parameter workaround which works fine except for when there are Ubuntu kernel updates. Then I have to go edit the grub config file again before I reboot.
joekrahn
14 Posts
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October 29th, 2009 13:00
I have no idea why they don't do a better job of updating the repo firmware. Maybe they only release tested BIOS updates? If so, maybe they need an additional "untested" repo? However, they do provide firmware tools for Linux that you should be able to use to extract firmware from the WIndows .EXE file.
I normally install a small DOS partition to make firmware updates easier. Unfortunately, some companies no longer provide DOS-compatible firmware updates, and only give Windows executables. At least Dell still has DOS-compatible firmware,
gnwiii
7 Posts
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March 2nd, 2010 10:00
well, getSystemId says:
Try loading the dell_rbu driver
Linux : modprobe dell_rbu
Windows: dell_rbu driver not yet available.
so Windows doesn't get all the goodies.
It isn't only BIOS updaters that often require Windows. Many external devices and even disk drives have firmware updaters or other tools that are available on as Windows programs. Last year I had problems with the system disk on an Apple server. Apple systems are a scarce resource, so rather than running disk tests on an Apple I ran the drive vendor's diagnostics (which required Windows) to generate a report. The drive was an Apple logo model, but Apple accepted the diagnostic report and replaced the drive.
On the other side, a colleague ran updates on a Windows laptop and the wireless stopped working with a message about "failure to initialize". The laptop has a linux partition, so to get on the net he booted linux, where wireless worked. After that, wireless once again worked in Windows. This sounds like some buggy wireless firmware came in the Windows update and was "fixed" by the linux driver.
kevpan815
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March 3rd, 2010 10:00
TOEBEE, WHAT I USUALLY DO IS I KEEP MY ORIGINAL OEM COPY OF WINDOWS XP/VISTA/7 CD/DVD, AND REINSTALL IT ANYTIME THAT I NEED 2 UPDATE MY BIOS, AND THEN UNINSTALL IT AND REVERT BACK 2 LINUX AFTER THE INSTALL, JUST FYI.
PaJoe
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March 3rd, 2010 14:00
TooBee;
If your main problem is the size of the FreeDos boot image, they have a 2.88MB image at their web site
http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/
Dell could , but doesn't make it easy for linux users to update their systems bios . I suspect it has more to do with keeping on the good side of Microsoft, than problems making it work.
pvachon
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May 10th, 2010 09:00
I had the same problem. When I installed Linux on my computer (Dell OptiPlex 755), I've deleted my Windows partition. So I burned the Windows BIOS update file on a CD, then boot from a Windows PE CD to finally run the BIOS update utility. The utility didn't reboot the computer so I pressed the power button. The BIOS was flashed successfully at reboot.
Hope this help
TimSmall
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October 7th, 2014 02:00
Old question, but this still comes up via Google - so since I've now got it working, here's how...
There are two solutions do this:
1. Run the Windows .exe under 'wine' under Linux, and pass it the -writehdrfile command line option e.g.
tim@ermintrude:~/Downloads$ wine O760-A16.exe -writehdrfile
tim@ermintrude:~/Downloads$ ls -al O760-A16.hdr
-rw-r--r-- 1 tim tim 3017988 Oct 7 09:21 O760-A16.hdr
n.b. if the windows executable is unable to write the file (e.g. permissions), you get an unhelpful "check command line arguments" error message.
The other is to use the extract_hdr utility as detailed here:
http://linux.dell.com/files/libsmbios/main/bios_hdr.html
ToeBee
58 Posts
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November 24th, 2014 15:00
I just recently had to update the BIOS on some older Optiplex 780s and re-examined this issue. What I ended up doing this time was quite painless. I grabbed a USB thumb drive, used Unetbootin on my desktop Linux Mint machine to create a freedos boot disk and then just dropped the .EXE from Dell's support site onto the USB drive along with the Freedos boot image. After booting from the USB stick (just the "Plain liveCD" option without any of the special memory options) all I had to do was change to C: and execute the .EXE. It took 3 or 4 minutes to update and that was that.
tech499
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June 9th, 2015 08:00
Wine didn't work for me. What did. Was Gandalf's Win PE Image. http://windowsmatters.com/2015/04/03/windows-8-1-x64-u1-pe-with-updateable-usb-portable-apps/.
hackerb9
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June 14th, 2016 13:00
Yes, definitely still helpful. Thank you for posting about '-writehdrfile'; that's exactly what I needed. By the way, I happened I ran the .exe file from DOSBOX instead of Wine, and that works as well.
Another helpful tip: once you have the .HDR file, flashing the ROM is easy from Debian GNU/Linux:
sudo apt-get install smbios-utils
sudo dellBiosUpdate --update --reboot O760-A16.HDR
Note that I have it reboot immediately since otherwise the BIOS upgrade is only queued to be installed upon next reboot.
--b9
bradhende
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June 30th, 2016 14:00
TimSmall: Do these errors upon completing the script you provided mean anything significant?
"ERROR: ld.so: object 'libesets_pac.so' from /etc/ld.so.preload cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object 'libesets_pac.so' from /etc/ld.so.preload cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored."
It doesn't sound right to me.