E248WFP vs UltraSharp 2408WFP

Question

I am looking to get dual 24 inch LCD's for a desktop (right now using a notebook but plan to get a XPS 630).  I see a fairly big price difference between these models.  I spend a significant number of hours a week in front of a LCD between software development, email, surfing the web, accounting, investing, gaming, etc.  However I am not doing professional grade graphic art work where color accuracy is all important.  That being said I do want as crisp a screen a possible for text and graphics.  I am leaning toward a pair of the UltraSharp 2408WFP's.  Anyone care to comment?  Thanks! Message Edited by anettis on 03-03-2008 02:17 PM

ctalia4000 · Answer

Re: E248WFP vs UltraSharp 2408WFP   The E2408WFP  is an economy monitor with a 6 bit TN panel. This monitor will not go well with a XPS 630,and its standard video card.  This is a link that outines the different monitors.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_monitors

reddice · Answer

Avoid TN Panels like the plauge.  Although it is harder to find a monitor that is not a TN Panel, keep looking for one that is not.

roijackers · Answer

@ctalia4000 wrote: Re: E248WFP vs UltraSharp 2408WFP   The E2408WFP  is an economy monitor with a 6 bit TN panel. This monitor will not go well with a XPS 630,and its standard video card.  This is a link that outines the different monitors.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_monitors   I think you mean E248wpf is a tn panel, because the 2408WFP used an samsung s-pva panel.

ctalia4000 · Answer

Thank you for finding my mistake.

roijackers · Answer

@bytor65 wrote:
I offer a dissenting opinion. TN panels are the most common type and almost certainly what is in your laptop. Unless you are doing serious color work (video/graphic design) TN is quite fine. If you are doing serious color work, I wouldn't get 2408 either, but NEC 90 series.

Plus there are lots of reports of 2408 issues (High input lag, wierd subframe color flashing like DLP).

Also I switched from a Dell 2405 PVA to a Dell 1707. I like the cheaper TN better. It responds faster, the brightness goes to a lower, more comforatable level (the 2405 scorched my eyes even on zero brightness), and it doesn't gamma shift as bad on the horizontal.

That's right. TN has only 1 very big problem. When you looking from the side, you'll see nothing. That's a very big issue with big monitors. This is not a very big problem for laptops, because you look straigh on it.

bytor65 · Answer

I offer a dissenting opinion. TN panels are the most common type and almost certainly what is in your laptop. Unless you are doing serious color work (video/graphic design) TN is quite fine. If you are doing serious color work, I wouldn't get 2408 either, but NEC 90 series.

Plus there are lots of reports of 2408 issues (High input lag, wierd subframe color flashing like DLP).

Also I switched from a Dell 2405 PVA to a Dell 1707. I like the cheaper TN better. It responds faster, the brightness goes to a lower, more comforatable level (the 2405 scorched my eyes even on zero brightness), and it doesn't gamma shift as bad on the horizontal.

anettis · Answer

I appreciate the opposing point of view bytor. I have been a notebook only guy for many years and am quite happy with the LCD quality in my recent notebooks. I just want something BIGGER. So I will give the E248WFP some additional consideration.

Has anyone on the board compared these two LCD's side by side for common tasks like gaming, surfing the web, word processing, etc?

bytor65 · Answer

@roijackers wrote:

That's right. TN has only 1 very big problem. When you looking from the side, you'll see nothing. That's a very big issue with big monitors. This is not a very big problem for laptops, because you look straigh on it.

How old is your TN screen? Because this is not accurate information. Modern TN panels don't do this, they are actually have better horizontal (from the side) viewing properties than PVA panels do.

TN panels odd behavior is when you look at the panels from below, then the image turns black, from the sides it better than PVA.

roijackers · Answer

Tn goes max until 170 but pva goes to 178 degrees. I have a samsung 205BW. Could you give me a link for a monitor with TN panel with 178 degrees?

bytor65 · Answer

Newsflash: those manufacturer specs mean nothing. I am talking about real world behavior as witnessed by someone who owned both. For viewing angles:
Horizontal IPS>TN>VA
Vertical IPS>VA>TN

Why don't you actually try viewing any LCD from 89 degrees off axis (get your protractor out) and report what you see. If you stop and think about this for even a moment you would realize how ridiculous such claims are. For a while samsung was claiming 90 degress off axis viewing angle which is a physical impossibility.

Having owned both, I couldn't stand use a PVA because it did this:
PVA gamma shift at youtube

A slight movement causes gama shifts, making the details play peekaboo. I'll take TN over this any day. Though I prefer IPS to both.

Message Edited by bytor65 on 03-04-2008 03:39 PM

ctalia4000 · Answer

You need to see what these posters are buying. It is not the E248WFP.   I would suggest you buy one of each and return the one you do not like.

anettis · Answer

@ctalia4000 wrote:

You need to see what these posters are buying. It is not the E248WFP.

I would suggest you buy one of each and return the one you do not like.

That is a great idea Ctalia - thanks for the suggestion!

Tony

HiLine · Answer

Have fun experimenting. I personally believe the UltraSharp will outperform the Entry. :)

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