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May 26th, 2004 03:00
High End CRT Recommendation
I am looking to help a friend purchase a new desktop computer.
The main requirement is the monitor. I know this might sound silly but here are the requirements.
Requirement #1
Must be a CRT, not an LCD. LCDs have been ruled out due to lingering issues about dead pixels and blurring images when scrolling text that this fellow has read about. No changing his mind. (shrug)
Requirement #2
Largest viewable area as possible with the highest resolution possible. For lack of a better description a large, "crisp" display that is also easy on the eyes.
I translated these into technical terms as:
a. refresh rate of a minimum of 75Hz for 1600 by 1200 to 70Hz for 2048 by 1536
b. tube type needs to be flat
c. 0.24mm to 0.25mm maximum dot pitch (0.24mm preferred)
Requirement #3
The machine itself will be something like a Dimension 8300 (unless someone has a better recommendation). I want to make sure the whole system is supported by Dell. This means the monitor needs to be supported by Dell.
Requirement #4
Primary viewing activities will be using MS Office tools (Word and Excel) and generating diagrams using something like Visio. Power consumption and monitor foot print size are not factors.
I have read through the more recently dated postings in the Dimension->Monitors forum and looked at some of the tech specs on the Dell supported CRT monitors.
From what I can tell from this research the monitors from Dell that meet these requirements are:
1. DELL P1230 22-inch Color CRT Monitor
2. NEC/MITSUBISHI MultiSync FP2141SB-BK 22-inch CRT Monitor
3. NEC/MITSUBISHI Diamond Pro 2070SB-BK 22-inch Black CRT Monitor
Two questions:
A. What are people's experiences with these CRT's? Is one better than another (maybe due to something like built screen configuration software or some technical aspect I missed)?
B. I was looking at the ATI 9800 Pro with either 256MB or 512MB of on board RAM as the video card. Is this over kill to drive this category of monitor? (Or maybe under kill!?)
Sorry for the long post.
nekton
The main requirement is the monitor. I know this might sound silly but here are the requirements.
Requirement #1
Must be a CRT, not an LCD. LCDs have been ruled out due to lingering issues about dead pixels and blurring images when scrolling text that this fellow has read about. No changing his mind. (shrug)
Requirement #2
Largest viewable area as possible with the highest resolution possible. For lack of a better description a large, "crisp" display that is also easy on the eyes.
I translated these into technical terms as:
a. refresh rate of a minimum of 75Hz for 1600 by 1200 to 70Hz for 2048 by 1536
b. tube type needs to be flat
c. 0.24mm to 0.25mm maximum dot pitch (0.24mm preferred)
Requirement #3
The machine itself will be something like a Dimension 8300 (unless someone has a better recommendation). I want to make sure the whole system is supported by Dell. This means the monitor needs to be supported by Dell.
Requirement #4
Primary viewing activities will be using MS Office tools (Word and Excel) and generating diagrams using something like Visio. Power consumption and monitor foot print size are not factors.
I have read through the more recently dated postings in the Dimension->Monitors forum and looked at some of the tech specs on the Dell supported CRT monitors.
From what I can tell from this research the monitors from Dell that meet these requirements are:
1. DELL P1230 22-inch Color CRT Monitor
2. NEC/MITSUBISHI MultiSync FP2141SB-BK 22-inch CRT Monitor
3. NEC/MITSUBISHI Diamond Pro 2070SB-BK 22-inch Black CRT Monitor
Two questions:
A. What are people's experiences with these CRT's? Is one better than another (maybe due to something like built screen configuration software or some technical aspect I missed)?
B. I was looking at the ATI 9800 Pro with either 256MB or 512MB of on board RAM as the video card. Is this over kill to drive this category of monitor? (Or maybe under kill!?)
Sorry for the long post.
nekton
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talmy
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May 26th, 2004 13:00
It's a shame he won't at least try a modern LCD monitor. My 2001FP at home is superior to the 21" Trinitron (Sun Microsystems branded) at work. Just hope he has a big desk to hold it.
nekton
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May 26th, 2004 14:00
The two non-DELL monitors I listed are offered on the DELL site even though they are not manufactured by DELL. I assumed since they were monitors you could purchase online off the DELL site they would be supported by DELL. Am I wrong on this? If I am not wrong, I would be interested in folks opinions and experiences of one over the other.
Finally, do you think my choice for the video card is too much or too little or *just* right ;) ? I really don't have experience in driving a high end CRT like that.
Thanks!
nekton
talmy
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May 26th, 2004 22:00
If you check the warranty section on the site, Dell only warantees Dell-branded monitors, either purchased from Software and Peripherals or with a system. The manufacturers warranty covers non-Dell branded monitors. They are very specific about this.
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/policy/en/policy?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~ck=lf&~section=010#hardware
nekton
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June 1st, 2004 14:00
After reading through the links you provided I now understand what you were trying to point out to me in the first place. Thanks for being persistant with me. :)
With that question clarified it looks like the DELL monitor is the one I will go with.
I am still unclear whether the ATI 9800 Pro with either 256MB or 512MB is too much/too little/just right to get the maximum performance out of the DELL P1230 22-inch Color CRT Monitor. I am afraid I don't have much experience with monitors and video cards so any help on this question would be greatly appreciated.
nekton
talmy
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June 1st, 2004 19:00
nekton
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June 1st, 2004 20:00
Thanks for clarifying this for me. This gentleman is not going to be doing video games, just the Office Applications. I guess in my attempt to educate myself I spent too much time looking at where there is a great deal of discussion on monitors and video cards, namely gaming sites.
Again, thank you for your patience and informative replies. You have been very helpful. :)
nekton
Gen-An
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July 2nd, 2004 01:00
Frankly, there shouldn't be much difference between any of them as they all use Mitsubishi Diamondtron tubes. The FP2141SB and the DP2070SB are the EXACT same monitor, but the FP2141SB costs less, so scratch the Diamond Pro off the list to save some $$$. Frankly I'd chose the NEC monitors as they have slightly higher max refresh rate (85Hz vs 75Hz on the P1230), the "SuperBright" modes, and a built in USB hub. I have an FP2141SB myself that I bought from Dell (10% off, free shipping and $30 off coupon, thanks a lot Dell!) and it is an excellent monitor.