Rick23
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Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

Hi All,

Have spent hours on this and am burnt out. Need to network my Inspiron to my Desktop PC (also DEll). Gone through Network Wizards, pinging etc and finally arrive at the following error message on both machines:

"Fireflyhome is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of the server to find out if you have access permissions.

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available."

As I don't have a server on either machine this is a mystery to me. Look forward to anyone being able to shine a bit of light on this!

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Jerry Park
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

More information would help. How are you connecting the machines? Crossover cable? Hub/router/switch?

What OS is running on each machine?

Are both machines set to the same workgroup?

How are IP addresses assigned? If you arn't using a router or some such to provide DHCP addresses, should probably set static addresses for each machine in the same subnet (192.168.0.x for example).

Can you ping either machine by name from the other?
Can you ping either machine by IP address from the other?

Is either machine seeing itself in the 'Newtwork Neighborhood'?
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Rick23
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

Jerry thanks for replying. Here is some more info.

Both machines have Windows XP Professional

Desktop has IP address 192.168.0.1

Inspiron IP address 192.168.0.2

Submask 255.255.255.0 on both machines

Crossed over cable used

Ping does not work from either machine it times out. Interesting thing is if I monitor  'received and sent' packets on both machines the Inspiron sends and receives packets but the Desktop only sends packets and never receives them.

On both machines I can go Network places/Entire Network/Microsoft windows network and I see the network symbol with the workgroup name.

On both machines if I click on the symbol I get the error message stated in my first email.

Look forward to any ideas that you may have.

Best

Rick

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Jerry Park
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

Since you have both machines set with compatible addresses, and since they have the same workgroup, then I would suspect that the machines have the wrong node type set.

Node type numbers are 1,2,4 and 8.
1 is broadcast only.
2 is WINS only.
4 is broascast then WINS.
8 is WINS then broadcast.

If the node type is 2 and you have no WINS server, you can never find the computers in the Network Neighborhood. However, you should be able to ping them by IP address and be able to connect by IP address from Windows Explorer ( \\ipaddress ).

To check/change this:
Start|run|regedit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE|SYSTEM|CurrentControlSet|Services|NetBT|Parameters
If nodetype is 2, set it to 1,4 or 8 (I keep mine set at 8).

Of course, there is the possibility that your crossover cable is defective (or one of your NIC's).
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Jerry Park
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

Additionally, make sure that each machine has a guest account active or that you have a login on the machine you are trying to connect to.
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Rick23
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

Now this is really interesting I followed your instructions to the letter with regedit. On my PC once I got down to parameters there was no 'nodetype' entry. So then I tried it on the Laptop and found 'DhcpNodeType' set to 8.

I activated a Guest logon on both machines.

 

Hope this gets us closer to the solution and thanks for your continuing help.

Best

Roderick

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Jerry Park
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC



@Rick23 wrote:

Now this is really interesting I followed your instructions to the letter with regedit. On my PC once I got down to parameters there was no 'nodetype' entry. So then I tried it on the Laptop and found 'DhcpNodeType' set to 8.


I activated a Guest logon on both machines.



Hope this gets us closer to the solution and thanks for your continuing help.


Best


Roderick






Strange. It should be just NodeType, not DhcpNodeType. I searched my registry, there is no 'DhcpNodeType' at all, so it couldn't be that you were just in the wrong place ...
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Jerry Park
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

I looked up some information on Microsoft. NodeType will override the DhcpNodeType. DhcpNodeType, if it exists, is set by the Dhcp server.

Since the NodeType overrides the DhcpNodeType, you might want to just add a NodeType parameter to each computer.

The article explaining this is here: http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/techresources/commnet/wins/winswp98/wins11-12.asp
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Rick23
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

Hi Jerry,

I spoke to a friend of my wife's this morning and mentioned my network problem and he's ended up fixing part of it! I had no idea he knew anything about networking. What he recommended I do was go into Settings/Network Connections/Local area connection/Properties then click on install and Add the protocol NWLinkNetBios. I did this on both machines and hey presto it works! What I did then was go back and look in the registery to see if it had added the nodetype value but it hasn't. Little bit on the weird side but I'm not complaining.

The only thing I can't get to work now is accessing the internet from my laptop through the desktop. Do I have to set Default Gateway to something?

Once again thankyou very much for taking the time to help me with this.

Best

Roderick

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Jerry Park
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Re: Network connection - Inspiron to Desktop PC

You are out of my area now. I prefer straight TCP/IP. Believe it is more secure.

So far as accessing the Internet through the desktop, don't know your setup. Stated you were using a crossover cable. Then I suppose the desktop has another NIC or modem or some such to connect to the Internet?

You would need to use ICS to allow the desktop to route the laptop. I won't use ICS. Routers are too cheap to mess with such a flaky setup. Besides, any other computer connecting to the Internet is completely dependent on the single computer operating. Unless your setup includes some type of router, you expose your main computer (and incidentally your entire network) to Internet attacks. A router's NAT is a very good protection.
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