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June 12th, 2005 21:00
SBC DSL and wireless router
I will be getting my Inspiron 6000 laptop in a few days and have already installed my wireless router off of my desktop. My laptop is coming with Centrino technology, so it already has the wireless card. Through searching these message boards I am seeing people having problems once they install the SBC DSL disc on their computers. My question is since I already have the DSL set up on my desktop, and the wireless router up and running, do I still need to install the SBC DSL disc on my laptop, or will I be able to connect to the DSL service via Internet Explorer without having to install the added software from SBC. I like some of the things you can do with the added software, but truthfully, if I can connect with Internet explorer I will be fine with that. The other question I have is will my wife and I still be able to log on and check our SBC DSL Yahoo email accounts if we use only Internet explorer? I really dont want to cause problems with this new laptop and have to go back to last restore points and such, but this forum is really helpful and I have seen some instruction posts, and can probably follow the instructions. Anyway, if anybody know the answers or has gone through this problem, any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
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jwatt
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June 13th, 2005 20:00
If the router is already logging in properly to SBC's DSL servers, you definitely don't need to make any changes to the router settings (other than adding wireless security), nor do you need to install any of SBC's software on your new system.
As far as the EMAIL accounts are concerned, as long as the accounts have separate logins at SBC/Yahoo, there shouldn't be any problems. I don't use Yahoo's EMAIL service, but even if it's Web based, there's surely a login step that has to be carried out before you obtain access to your EMAIL. If someone who uses SBC/Yahoo EMAIL can provide more information, please feel free to post.
You may also find the extensive collection of "Frequently Asked Questions" about SBC/Yahoo at DSL Reports helpful.
Jim
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June 13th, 2005 23:00
I am assumming that therouter is set up through SBC DSL because I am currently on the net and the router is up and running. Our email accounts are seperate and we do have to login. We have been using the provided SBC software and their browser, but last night I began using the internet explorer, and really there wasnt any thing we cant live without, so I believe when I get the laptop I am not going to download the provided software.
One other question, since I will be using the laptop wirelessly, how will download times and things like that differ from if I connected the laptop by wire? The laptop I will be getting will be much faster than the desktop that I am currently using and will still keep connected. I don't do a lot of downloading, so I dont have to have the absolute fastest way, but if its going to take 15 minutes wirelessly compared to like 2 minutes if I have it connected by wire, I may look at getting it set up so that if I need to download stuff I connect it by wire then, and then use the wireless for normal surfing.
Thanks for all the help.
jwatt
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June 14th, 2005 03:00
If the SBC/Yahoo DSL account is already set up on the router (I'm assuming the wired PC is connecting through the router), then you don't need any of SBC's software on the new laptop. Its wireless adapter should be set to "obtain an IP address automatically", and the adapter's wireless security settings should match those of the router.
The 802.11g wireless standard supports a maximum speed of 54 mbits/sec. Reported performance ranges from about half to two-thirds that value. Both of those are considerably faster than the fastest available DSL connections currently available. They're generally about 6 mbits/sec. maximum. If something's interfering with the local wireless radio signal, the performance can be considerably less, but the fix is to find and resolve the source of the interference.
Jim
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June 15th, 2005 07:00
Most routers have this option and it needs to be set up correctly
Often with DSL you need to Login soo your username would be username@ISP.com ( in your case username@sbcglobal.net )
And enter the password given by your ISP
The basic Idea of a router is to distribute IP addresses via DHCP server on the router and to route the internet to the computers. In order for the router to connect to the internet. You must first set up the router to always connect to your ISP. PPPoE setup will always be connected to the internet and will dial out automatically and will always be on.
Another thing SBC does not tell you about running a router is that some times the modems come with routers built in. 1 port routers... kinda lame.. sooo you'll need to verify if it's a modem router.. most common ones are speedstream 5100,5200, Actiontec, 2wire, some westells, netopia, Broadband blaster, etc etc
You'll need to contact your ISP in order to change the modem into bridge mode. Once that's done you should be online.
I work as tech support technician for a leading networking brand and deal with connecting to ISPs a lot
jr3153
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June 15th, 2005 08:00
Well, I did purchase a Dlink 624 wireless router, and set it up. I did have a small problem at first, but once I called Dlink, they helped me set it up in about 5 minutes and I am up and running. The Modem that SBC sent me was a speed stream 5100. It is still set up. The DSL phone line runs to the speedstream modem, which is connected by ethernet cable to the Dlink router, which is then connected by another ethernet cable to my desktop which is what I am currently using. Is that set up right? From what others have posted herre, my wireless laptop will search for the signal coming from my router when I do get it, but you said something about having to contact SBC, which I never did, mainly becuase everyhting has been working since I called D link. I did speak with SBC about purchasing a wireless router from them, however they wanted 150 dollars as aposed to the 70 I paid for the Dlink. All this wireless is new to me, so I want to make sure I am set up right.
Thanks for the help.
jwatt
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June 15th, 2005 15:00
The Speedstream 5100 is not itself a router. Its near relative, the Speedstream 5100b, is a router. But since you're already connecting to SBC using a wired connection that goes through the D-Link, that's set up correctly and is all working - right?
There's nothing to contact SBC about. The device that's doing the "PPPoE" negotiation with SBC is the D-Link, and, since it's working now, is performing as intended. Incidentally, PPPoE is an authentication method that many US ADSL providers use for granting access to their networks. It should not be confused with ADSL itself. You may find this definition of ADSL from Wikipedia helpful.
Jim
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June 17th, 2005 17:00
majority of the time if you set it up the first time and cannot get it to work.. it is most likey not in bridge mode
first way
Dynamic IP Address ( this has been proven to be very unstable at times and I often get calls because of network disconnects ) and you'll need to change the LAN IP address to like 172.x.x.x
Second way
PPPoE have the router manage the connection to the ISP rather then having the modem do it. Most often this is the most stable way of maintaining a connection. This requires a call to SBC in order to bridge it
Having dealt with many SBC customers the Dynamic IP address takes way to many steps to do and are often hard to get working. The PPPoE step is alot simpler because you set it up using username@sbcglobal.net and the password and then call SBC to bridge it. Most router manufactures do not want their IP addresses changed. ( i actually hate changing LAN IPs of our routers ) and PPPoE is the best way to get it to work...
Dynamic will work but don't complain of the network starts to get unstable.