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May 25th, 2019 18:00
7060, WiFi, External vs Internal Antenna
I am looking at the Optiplex 7060 wireless options by Intel - and there are two Intel AC 9560 options - one with an external antenna and the other with internal antenna. Is there any noticeable performance difference between these two choices? The external antenna is slightly more expensive ($35 external vs. $28 internal) and I'm just wondering if there is a clear reason why I would want or need the external antenna. Thanks
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U2CAMEB4ME
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May 26th, 2019 07:00
Welcome to the Dell Community @rc07
Internal vs External not much difference in performance or range.
The reason for the external antenna is if your desktop did not have any internal antenna wires installed or you could not purchase and install the internal antenna wires yourself.
If your desktop has the internal antenna wires just purchase the WiFi card.
If not purchase the WiFi card and external antenna.
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savvy2
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May 26th, 2019 07:00
there are 2 choices
PCI-e slot wifi card with external antenna , short stub or even full sized antennas, endless choices even dish. or yagi. yes antennas endless. (some folks like to use the free wifi next door a the holiday inn.. (funny folks)
or USB wifi, with short stub antenna, sold on fleabay for $4... vast persons use these, millions.(zillions)?
but next to your router not, 10feet not 50ft? then a stub antenna works, but not buried in a faraday cage, OK?
savvy2
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May 26th, 2019 07:00
RF rules, wifi is radio. 2.4gHz and up,
my OptiPlex has aluminum full case. and that forms RF "faraday" shield, (no RF out , none comes in) by design
and by Part 15 B, regs. USA FCC. ok?
that means only external antennas work on metal desktops or those rare versions of desktops with plastic cases but is coated on the inside with metal plating. for the same reason, part B regulations FCC. oK.
Also the antenna has a farther range and with that faster speeds.
that is how wifi works ok,
and the lowband the farthest of all.
license radio guy I am. (credentials)
U2CAMEB4ME
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May 26th, 2019 08:00
@savvy2
Yes desktop cases are of a "Tempest" design!!!
That's why the antennas are mounted to the "OUTSIDE" of the case."The cables originate from the inside of the case."
Depending on the model and manufacture they could be mounted behind the "Front Plastic Bezel" or "Top Plastic Cover"
"Front Mount under Plastic Bezel"
"Top Mount under Plastic Bezel"
I have also seen one antenna mounted to the front and one mounted to the rear of a desktop.
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savvy2
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May 26th, 2019 09:00
the OP never posted links to his buy list
so answers go to laws of physics (guessing above, is silly, so we do physics)
here is better, ( move the antenna out of the faraday cage metal confinement)
is this clear?
on laptops the antenna is moved to the LCD bezel; rim where no metalized plastic frame exists, By Design.
an rule 2, higher is better. for range.
or go whole hog here and burn $14
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Antenna-PCI-E-300Mbps-300M-802-11b-g-n-Wireless-WiFi-Card-Adapter-for-Desktop/283481344792?hash=item4200ce0b18:g:KrYAAOSw8w1YAJyn
we pack this on vacation so if a LT PC wifi dies.(hw dies)
we pop this in and we win.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/600Mbps-USB-Wireless-WiFi-Network-Adapter-802-11n-g-b-LAN-Card-Dongle-w-Antenna/322276610787?hash=item4b092ed2e3:g:OrMAAOSwiuxb4lYa
savvy2
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May 26th, 2019 09:00
behind air works best.
behind metal not. (faradays laws are not repealed.)
behind plastic is ok.
it's just radio propagation laws. and 5ghz is worse, even thin walls block it easy. laws of physics all.
Palmvim
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June 23rd, 2019 08:00
Hello I hope you can help me. I just got an Optiplex 7060 MT. I ordered the Intel 9560 separately hoping to add wifi+bluetooth to my system. Dell sent me the 9560 by itself (not even the screw to secure it) I also seem to be missing the antenna for this to work.
I contacted Dell, but so far no success (not even with support) to find out what I need to get to make this work. I don't find anything on the manual on how to add antenna to my computer (only a visual of the computer's back showing the holes for some antenna.
U2CAMEB4ME
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June 23rd, 2019 09:00
Welcome to the Dell Community @Palmvim
You could try "Generic" Wifi cables and antenna.
Mini PCI-E Wifi Cable Antenna:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pair-Internal-U-FL-Antenna-Cable-For-Laptop-Mini-PCI-E-Wifi-Card-Intel-7260HMW/253198975192?hash=item3af3d5c0d8:g:RgIAAOSwc1FZ2y3m
Then mount the antenna's on the exterior of the metal case.
Make sure the cables are long enough to reach the outside!!!
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July 1st, 2019 11:00
Visible external MIMO antenna will have better range.