The 3050 micro with 65w PSU and 35w CPU may be too underpowered to be a media server.
I remember a complaint at a business with the micro they had was that the USB's didn't even seem to have enough power. Something to the effect of use one USB, can't use the other.
There are micros with more power. 5070 micro has 90w PSU, but still 35w CPU. 7070 has 130w PSU and 65w CPU. But are they good as media servers? Not sure. I think you'd have better luck with an SFF or MT. Back to the 3050, the SFF has 180w PSU. And more impressive is the 7080 micro with optional 180w PSU with 65w CPU. So if you wanted to stick to micros... I haven't seen any power complaints on the models with better PSU's.
So there's some info for you to go on. Spec sheets for the above models can be Googled.
Have you run any pre-boot diagnostic scan. It does sound like a power issue which commonly happened to laptops and AIO systems. A system would limit its processor clock if it couldn't determine the plugin type of power. It won't hurt to try if your processor clock affected by that type of issue.
Verify if you have OEM power adapter. Unplugging power from back of your system, push and hold power button for 15 sec., reconnecting AC adapter and make sure that the power connector fit well to the PC. If the issue is persisted, you may think about testing it with a different AC adapter.
Thanks again, that’s really helpful. I’ll follow this advice up. At least I’m not wasting money on a replacement CPU - only to find it would be the same
your pc bios is severely downclocking the cpu to save energy because it is a micro. you can try replace cmos battery with a new one, clear cmos settings and reset bios to factory default. If still 0.79, try Throttlestop, but you should keep an eye on cpu temp when running cpu at full frequency continuously.
PS is it a typo " the 7th Gen 7500T"? it is either i5-7500T or i7-7700T.
Thinking about your response, what's the point of Dell fitting a i5-7500T if they downclock it to such an extent that it behaves like an Atom or something? Is there any benefit to a processor like this in this machine?
Also, I had a look at Throttlestop but struggled to see how I improve the CPU from it (the instructions were generally very easy to follow but quite generic, and the section on undervolting was no good as Dell locks you out of that apparently). Am I stuck with what I have?
Thanks. Unfortunately, whilst I would prefer to follow your advice, I have this one now and changing would be a big hassle. Looks like your points about the power is the critical factor I cannot overcome. Much appreciated the response
try disable speedstep in bios or Throttlestop and see if that can stop underclocking of cpu.
downclocking your CPU improves the temperature by a big margin, but overall performance will also be affected. it is a tradeoff in a micro that has limited cooling amenities. but I think 0.79 seems a too drastic underclock by Dell bios.
thanks. So I disabled speedstep and it made no difference. I get the CPU / great relationship but it does beg the question why bother putting in a 7th gen i5 if you are going to render it so slow?
yeah Speed Step – On older CPUs (pre-Skylake), toggles the software-level governance of CPU clockspeeds.
Speed Shift – EPP (Energy Performance Preference) – Starting with Intel’s Skylake, this became the new low-level (non-software) method for governing CPU behavior. It replaced the older “SpeedStep” technology, which required software-level governance.
If Speed Shift is not enabled by default in the BIOS, you can enable it by going to the “TPL” button and checking the “Speed Shift” option in that dialogue box.
Speed Shift – EPP operates with values between 0-255, where 0 means the CPU will prefer its maximum frequency (into the turbo range, assuming you have not checked “disable turbo”), and 255 means the system will prefer running the CPU at its lowest base clocks.
So, I tried the suggestions above but no difference. Is it possible the CPU is faulty after all - or this is just how it operates? I couldn't find anything else online that mentions this type of issue with this model
Did the 3050 micro come with a warranty or return policy? You might just want to return or exchange it.
I don't know about the some of the others in this forum, but so far I haven't heard of a faulty CPU downclocking itself. They're typically dead if defective Certainly doesn't mean exceptions can't occur.
OMG I think you are on to something. Just assumed the supplied power brick was the correct one and hadn’t factored it in as a potential problem as the system boots and runs etc. Checked and its only a 45W charger, when the spec sheet suggests a 65W one. That’s a distinct possibility of the cause of the issue. I’ll order a 65W one and see how that goes.
I’ll come back with the results to close this off one way or another (perhaps for future reference). many thanks to those who have responded so far - I really sincerely appreciate it.
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The 3050 micro with 65w PSU and 35w CPU may be too underpowered to be a media server.
I remember a complaint at a business with the micro they had was that the USB's didn't even seem to have enough power. Something to the effect of use one USB, can't use the other.
There are micros with more power. 5070 micro has 90w PSU, but still 35w CPU. 7070 has 130w PSU and 65w CPU. But are they good as media servers? Not sure. I think you'd have better luck with an SFF or MT. Back to the 3050, the SFF has 180w PSU. And more impressive is the 7080 micro with optional 180w PSU with 65w CPU. So if you wanted to stick to micros... I haven't seen any power complaints on the models with better PSU's.
So there's some info for you to go on. Spec sheets for the above models can be Googled.
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Have you run any pre-boot diagnostic scan. It does sound like a power issue which commonly happened to laptops and AIO systems. A system would limit its processor clock if it couldn't determine the plugin type of power. It won't hurt to try if your processor clock affected by that type of issue.
Verify if you have OEM power adapter. Unplugging power from back of your system, push and hold power button for 15 sec., reconnecting AC adapter and make sure that the power connector fit well to the PC. If the issue is persisted, you may think about testing it with a different AC adapter.
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February 12th, 2023 14:00
open task manager and look at performance tab for cpu frequency. is it running at very low speed?
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Hi, thanks for the response. Its running at 0.79GHz. Base speed
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Thanks again, that’s really helpful. I’ll follow this advice up. At least I’m not wasting money on a replacement CPU - only to find it would be the same
cheers
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February 12th, 2023 15:00
that was what I suspected as I had a Dell pc that did similar thing.
i7-7700T baseline frequency is 2.7 GHz.
your pc bios is severely downclocking the cpu to save energy because it is a micro. you can try replace cmos battery with a new one, clear cmos settings and reset bios to factory default. If still 0.79, try Throttlestop, but you should keep an eye on cpu temp when running cpu at full frequency continuously.
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Thinking about your response, what's the point of Dell fitting a i5-7500T if they downclock it to such an extent that it behaves like an Atom or something? Is there any benefit to a processor like this in this machine?
Also, I had a look at Throttlestop but struggled to see how I improve the CPU from it (the instructions were generally very easy to follow but quite generic, and the section on undervolting was no good as Dell locks you out of that apparently). Am I stuck with what I have?
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Thanks. Unfortunately, whilst I would prefer to follow your advice, I have this one now and changing would be a big hassle. Looks like your points about the power is the critical factor I cannot overcome. Much appreciated the response
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February 13th, 2023 08:00
try disable speedstep in bios or Throttlestop and see if that can stop underclocking of cpu.
downclocking your CPU improves the temperature by a big margin, but overall performance will also be affected. it is a tradeoff in a micro that has limited cooling amenities. but I think 0.79 seems a too drastic underclock by Dell bios.
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February 13th, 2023 09:00
thanks. So I disabled speedstep and it made no difference. I get the CPU / great relationship but it does beg the question why bother putting in a 7th gen i5 if you are going to render it so slow?
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February 13th, 2023 09:00
yeah Speed Step – On older CPUs (pre-Skylake), toggles the software-level governance of CPU clockspeeds.
Speed Shift – EPP (Energy Performance Preference) – Starting with Intel’s Skylake, this became the new low-level (non-software) method for governing CPU behavior. It replaced the older “SpeedStep” technology, which required software-level governance.
If Speed Shift is not enabled by default in the BIOS, you can enable it by going to the “TPL” button and checking the “Speed Shift” option in that dialogue box.
Speed Shift – EPP operates with values between 0-255, where 0 means the CPU will prefer its maximum frequency (into the turbo range, assuming you have not checked “disable turbo”), and 255 means the system will prefer running the CPU at its lowest base clocks.
throttlestop guide
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February 13th, 2023 12:00
I'm also in agreement with redxps that 0.79ghz is too severe of a downclock.
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So, I tried the suggestions above but no difference. Is it possible the CPU is faulty after all - or this is just how it operates? I couldn't find anything else online that mentions this type of issue with this model
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February 13th, 2023 14:00
Did the 3050 micro come with a warranty or return policy? You might just want to return or exchange it.
I don't know about the some of the others in this forum, but so far I haven't heard of a faulty CPU downclocking itself. They're typically dead if defective Certainly doesn't mean exceptions can't occur.
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OMG I think you are on to something. Just assumed the supplied power brick was the correct one and hadn’t factored it in as a potential problem as the system boots and runs etc. Checked and its only a 45W charger, when the spec sheet suggests a 65W one. That’s a distinct possibility of the cause of the issue. I’ll order a 65W one and see how that goes.
I’ll come back with the results to close this off one way or another (perhaps for future reference). many thanks to those who have responded so far - I really sincerely appreciate it.