I am interested in replacing the old 3.5" hard drives in some old optiplex 780 desktops with new 2.5" SSD hard drives.
1. The manual for the optiplex 780 indicates that the maximum size for a 2.5" SSD in the optiplex 780 can be 64 GB.
2. So, I'm wondering what would happen if I installed a 120GB SSD, would it not be able to utilize all the disk space, has there been firmware upgrades since the original manual that would allow it to read larger SSD's now?
Thank you.
1. Goes to show how old those machine are. You can ignore that. Still, I suggest you do only one as a test. Crystal DiskInfo and DiskMark will help. Maybe grab some screen-shots before and after.
2. It should work fine, space-wise.
Since this old machine will only have the old SATA-2/300 interface ... it will only be twice as fast as a spinning HDD. However, the SSD's high IOPS will also help.
Kinda surprised you are bothering with these old machines. How much longer are you planning on keeping them?
I am not the original poster but have the same inquiry re: ssd drives. I just recently upgraded by Optiplex duo core to Intel quad core. I am looking at used Samsung Dell laptop ssd drives for my sff so to put start up and software on ssd and then use my 3y old 500 wd hard drive onto my desktop for my storage. I am also thinking of getting another ssd 2.5 drive as a portable backup drive. Just this week, I upgraded my Windows software from 7 professional to 10 professional with no problems. I can continue using my Office Suite 2007 with no issues. I am a retired senior that only uses my pc occasionally...mainly for internet use.
After upgrading my Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 Pro, I found 2003 Office Suite usable. I read that the free upgrades for Office Suite have ended years ago so I decided to go with 2016 version. I have no interest in a monthly or yearly fee for the Office Suite package.
In checking my system, the bios is from 2011. I tried downloading files to to update the bios; Dell indicates upgrades need to be done manually and reboot required. Some of the video card driver upgrades don't seem to support Win 10 Pro. Also got an error saying I need administrator permission.
I was mainly using PC for word and Excel before retiring. I hope to get used Dell Samsung 128 gb ssd drive in the next week.
Not sure if I should reach out to Dell for extended support so to resolve some of these minor issues. I have been dealing with issues with an 82 yr old frail neighbor that hopes to get out of rehab by end of Feb and get back home without any support. I hope she will be evaluated for autism which I think has never been diagnosed.
If one of you would be willing to assist directly with me (since I am no programmer), please contact me at eskimodeb@yahoo.com
i guess the 780 like my old 790 (used for lab torturing device, ) the 780 too has no F12 Update bios.
what bios version is yours now??, (many dells can not jump from v01 to v22 ok must be done in stages)
the best way to do this is use DDDP, called DELL DOS, this is the best way, even HDD unplugged this works.!
steps. simple
get the dells new bios file O790xxxx.exe xxxx is version (off your support page 790)
get and use DDDP to make the bootable USB stick DELL DOS, even old tiny sticks work (thumb drives)
move the file in line 1 to stick made in step 2. (drag and drop it )
now boot he stick (safe boot = off in BIOS if found there, IDK all 20+versions of DELL BIOS)
stick boots and magic DELL DOES C:/ arrives, on the screen, type DIR for fun, see? DOS runs.
type the name in line 1 above and the BIOS will be updated. (ive done this on vast dells and one 380 and one 790 too) DOS is SAFE ! the most safe after F12 you do not have.
this is fully safe, with no lightning in the hood, now. no chance of AC line power loss NOW. OK>
And guess what - Office 2007 works on Win10. As speedstep sometimes points out, unsupported doesn't always mean not working.
Office 2007 isn't quite what I was expecting as I've used newer versions at the library, but it'll do for now as the cost goes up exponentially for newer versions.
During the install of Office 2007 on a new Windows 10 PC, I receive a message:
"Setup cannot find Publisher.en-us\PubLR.cab. Browse to a valid installation source.
Others with Office 2007 pro in win 10get a message that simply says the installation encountered an Error 1935. An error occurred during the installation of assembly component 0x80070003.
Office 2007 reached its end of support on October 10, 2017
If its a retail version of Office 2007 and your key is validated here, download/save before running the install
Not disputing error msgs. came up with Office 2007 install on Win10, I received none. I did get 2 error msgs. when installing Office 2003 on Win10. If I remember right, I was given the option to simply continue or ignore each time, and that's what I did. Everything worked fine.
Two versions (but not limited to) of Office '07 I see on eBay is the upgrade version (must have Office '03 first) and Dell OEM (full version). The one I have is Dell OEM.
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1. Goes to show how old those machine are. You can ignore that. Still, I suggest you do only one as a test. Crystal DiskInfo and DiskMark will help. Maybe grab some screen-shots before and after.
2. It should work fine, space-wise.
Since this old machine will only have the old SATA-2/300 interface ... it will only be twice as fast as a spinning HDD. However, the SSD's high IOPS will also help.
Kinda surprised you are bothering with these old machines. How much longer are you planning on keeping them?
eskimodeb
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February 21st, 2020 17:00
I am not the original poster but have the same inquiry re: ssd drives. I just recently upgraded by Optiplex duo core to Intel quad core. I am looking at used Samsung Dell laptop ssd drives for my sff so to put start up and software on ssd and then use my 3y old 500 wd hard drive onto my desktop for my storage. I am also thinking of getting another ssd 2.5 drive as a portable backup drive. Just this week, I upgraded my Windows software from 7 professional to 10 professional with no problems. I can continue using my Office Suite 2007 with no issues. I am a retired senior that only uses my pc occasionally...mainly for internet use.
Deb in Wisconsin
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February 22nd, 2020 07:00
windows 10 does not support office 2007. Only office 2010 and up.
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February 22nd, 2020 19:00
Going back a little farther, not that I plan on keeping it that way, but Office 2003 runs fine on Win10.
bradthetechnut
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February 22nd, 2020 20:00
Ditto.
eskimodeb
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February 22nd, 2020 20:00
After upgrading my Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 Pro, I found 2003 Office Suite usable. I read that the free upgrades for Office Suite have ended years ago so I decided to go with 2016 version. I have no interest in a monthly or yearly fee for the Office Suite package.
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OFFICE 2007 (bunk) on w10 here for 13 years w7, and runs on w10 for 5 long years, not one problem. ever. nor expected.
OP you can run any SSD you want there, up to 2TB and over that, must be in GPT mode UEFI. boot.
the manual for you PC is a relic, those words there are (what dell tired, before the world change to bigger better things, (G.Moore's laws)
be wise to upgrade BIOS.. ( any time you add newer and bigger/faster things>)
eskimodeb
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February 23rd, 2020 20:00
In checking my system, the bios is from 2011. I tried downloading files to to update the bios; Dell indicates upgrades need to be done manually and reboot required. Some of the video card driver upgrades don't seem to support Win 10 Pro. Also got an error saying I need administrator permission.
I was mainly using PC for word and Excel before retiring. I hope to get used Dell Samsung 128 gb ssd drive in the next week.
Not sure if I should reach out to Dell for extended support so to resolve some of these minor issues. I have been dealing with issues with an 82 yr old frail neighbor that hopes to get out of rehab by end of Feb and get back home without any support. I hope she will be evaluated for autism which I think has never been diagnosed.
If one of you would be willing to assist directly with me (since I am no programmer), please contact me at eskimodeb@yahoo.com
Deb
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February 24th, 2020 05:00
it's old what is best to do with old PC, (give it to charity?)
replace the RTC coin cell first, it will bad , this old, get one for $1, if bad BIOS goes NUTZ, CHAOS !
next to fail is the HDD, test the HDD using smart tests, (if PC has iPSA diags in the F12 screen run that )
if not there in f12 run crystaldiskinfo.exe free. from maker only. (means authorized source)
HDD mostly do not last this long unless PC sat dead for 10 years, nah..... bet not...
the HDD test above even shows hours on the HDD.
then flash newest BIOS.
then upgrade w7 (if there) free to W10 , MICROsoft still allows this, ask them or read there web page how.
fresh install is not free after 30days. just upgraded.
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i guess the 780 like my old 790 (used for lab torturing device, ) the 780 too has no F12 Update bios.
what bios version is yours now??, (many dells can not jump from v01 to v22 ok must be done in stages)
the best way to do this is use DDDP, called DELL DOS, this is the best way, even HDD unplugged this works.!
steps. simple
this is fully safe, with no lightning in the hood, now. no chance of AC line power loss NOW. OK>
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February 28th, 2020 19:00
Hi @eskimodeb,
And guess what - Office 2007 works on Win10. As speedstep sometimes points out, unsupported doesn't always mean not working.
Office 2007 isn't quite what I was expecting as I've used newer versions at the library, but it'll do for now as the cost goes up exponentially for newer versions.
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February 29th, 2020 06:00
During the install of Office 2007 on a new Windows 10 PC, I receive a message:
"Setup cannot find Publisher.en-us\PubLR.cab. Browse to a valid installation source.
Others with Office 2007 pro in win 10get a message that simply says the installation encountered an Error 1935. An error occurred during the installation of assembly component 0x80070003.
Office 2007 reached its end of support on October 10, 2017
If its a retail version of Office 2007 and your key is validated here, download/save before running the install
https://products.office.com/en-us/download-back-up-restore-microsoft-office-products
early versions
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/office
There may also be security updates required.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4020152/may-9-2017-update-for-microsoft-office
Neither dell nor microsoft support OFFICE 2007 or windows 7 anymore.
Office 2007 EOL
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-just-ended-support-for-office-2007-and-outlook-2007/
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February 29th, 2020 20:00
Not disputing error msgs. came up with Office 2007 install on Win10, I received none. I did get 2 error msgs. when installing Office 2003 on Win10. If I remember right, I was given the option to simply continue or ignore each time, and that's what I did. Everything worked fine.
Two versions (but not limited to) of Office '07 I see on eBay is the upgrade version (must have Office '03 first) and Dell OEM (full version). The one I have is Dell OEM.
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Speeds are consistent, even under heavy workloads and multi-tasking allowing for faster file transfer. The 860 EVO performs at sequential read speeds up to 550 MB/s* with Intelligent TurboWrite technology, and sequential write speeds up to 520 MB/s. The TurboWrite buffer size* is upgraded from 12 GB to 78 GB.
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Benefit from faster, more fluid communication with your host system. The refined ECC* algorithm and a new MJX controller generate higher speeds, and the improved queued trim enhances Linux compatibility.
Whatever size your computer needs, there is an 860 EVO for you. Choose among the 2.5-inch size for desktop PCs and laptops, and the SATA-based M.2 (2280) or the mSATA for ultra-slim computing devices.