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August 27th, 2007 18:00
SC440 Xeon supports Intel VT?
Hi, Looking to buy a SC440 for hardware-based virtualization tests... Please advise if SC440 with Xeon processors would support Intel's VT virtualization technology. I have read the manual of SC440 and cannot see the bios setting of VT in it. Is VT enabled by default (even though the setting is not there)? Or is there any updated bios which added the VT option? I checked the Xeon processor and they all support VT, the Intel 3000 chipset being used on the SC440 also support VT... now the remaining question is, whether Dell has put the enabling bit into the SC440 bios... Thank you in advance. P.S. I also checked SC1430 manual and see that its bios has virtualization settings for enabling / disabling VT. Regards, KC
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at5147
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August 27th, 2007 20:00
Message Edited by at5147 on 08-27-2007 04:20 PM
zeckill
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August 27th, 2007 20:00
at5147
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August 27th, 2007 21:00
"Intel has contributed modifications to Xen to support their VT-x (formerly Vanderpool) architecture extensions..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen
zeckill
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August 27th, 2007 21:00
at5147
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August 27th, 2007 22:00
at5147
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August 28th, 2007 04:00
So, yes, the system will support VT technology though it was not designed, as far as I know, specifically for it.
zeckill
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August 28th, 2007 04:00
Sorry for being so persistant... I really would like to know if you have first-hand experience on using hardware virtualization (VT) on SC440+Xeon... and can confirm that the SC440 bios *does* support and have VT enabled, even though the setting is not there (hidden but enabled by default when used with Xeon).
The reason I am being so skeptics about this is that, it is not uncommon that people who wants to use VT technology, after getting their VT-supported-Processor-and-chipset machine, later find out that the VT setting is not there in the bios and cannot use VT (the vendor must either provide the VT option in the bios for enabling or have the VT option enabled by hidden default). The feature is simply blocked by the bios and the whole "VT path" is trapped by the vendor not including this enabling bit in the bios.
In order for VT to be fully working, quotes: "require a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, enabling software and/or operating system, device drivers and applications designed for these features." (http://www.intel.com/business/technologies/virtualization.htm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_virtualization, http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/16/2222224). I have checked and make sure that the Xeon CPU (processor), Intel 3000 (chipset) and Xen (enabling software and OS) are good for VT. The only missing link is the BIOS.
Referring to your reply, I was delighted that you specifically pointed out that the VT feature is enabled in the SC440 bios "hidden but enabled by default when used with Xeon" and all I have to do is to get a Xeon (VT-supported) CPU with it. However, your last post implies that your answer was solely based on the observation of Xeon processor only. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Again sorry for being so skeptic and persistant. I just want to be 100% sure before making the new purchase because this machine is solely for VT. It is disappointed that even Dell support line cannot answer my answer (they would simply say no). Being a customer who wants to buy a product, it shouldn't be this difficult to find out product information before the purchase.
Regards,
zK
zeckill
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August 28th, 2007 10:00
I understand that the SC440 was designed as a entry-level product. However, I believe we as the end-users should have the option to make use of the hardware to its full potential (all hardware in SC440 is VT-capable), regardless which marketing position the vendor (Dell) is trying to put the product in. Afterall, end-user pay for the hardware and would not expect limitations imposed by the vendor.
Now that I have your confirmation, I am reassured that the SC440, while equipped with the Xeon, will have the VT enabled in the BIOS, although the setting is not present in the BIOS user interface. So VT is "enabled by hidden default" on the SC440 BIOS...
I will go ahead and order a SC440+Xeon for VT testing purpose. Thanks alot for the information provided.
Regards,
zK
Jason Hollenber
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June 22nd, 2012 18:00
I have an SC440 with a Xeon 3050 and and can confirm 64-bit guests do NOT work under VMware ESXi 4.1. Haven't tried with 5.0 but I assume it would be the same. The BIOS shows VT-x is listed as a processor feature but there is no way to turn it on or off. Additionally, I ran the vmware processor check utility from Windows before installing ESXi and it said this host can run 64-bit guests. Obviously that was wrong.