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December 20th, 2021 03:00
T630 fan speed high after RAID controller replacement
Hi all,
I swapped storage controllers from H730p to HBA330 in a T630 after which the fan speed ramped to 55% PWM max (around 3k RPM).
Server has been running for around a year with H730p and same HDD combination with no issues and near silent performance. No other hardware has changed.
All firmware is up to date-
BIOS is 2.13.0, iDRAC 2.82.82.82, HBA330 16.17.01.00
Drives are 8 x Dell P/N W0VNC (TH0W0VNCSGT008BC00C8A00) with latest EA04 firmware
Thermal profile is `Minimum Power`. Changing to `Default` doesn't change fan speed. Fan Speed Offset is `Off`. Minimum Fan Speed is `Default`.
Removing all hard drives causes fan speed to return to normal.
System has no active alerts. I've switched back to the previously working H730p but high fan speed remains. I've also unplugged all power + held power button for 20 seconds before powering on and gone through retire + repurpose wizard to clear all iDRAC and BIOS settings but issue remains.
Any advice would be appreciated!



joneilosco
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December 31st, 2021 02:00
As expected, this is a long standing issue with Dell firmware. From their own documentation for previous generation servers-
A system configured as non-RAID has a higher noise level than a system configured as RAID. With non-RAID, the temperature of the hard disk drives is not monitored, which causes the fan speed to be higher to ensure sufficient cooling resulting in higher noise level
A bit of Googling shows the problem has only gotten worse with the next generation of tower servers having low quality, noisy fans and still don't allow a negative fan offset in situations like this.
DELL-Marco B
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December 20th, 2021 09:00
Hello,
please can you perform a iDRAC reset?
Here the procedures:
https://dell.to/3Ff8Out
Thanks
Marco
joneilosco
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December 21st, 2021 02:00
Hi Marco,
I've already reset all settings as described under "Reset using the iDRAC Settings Utility" and power cycled the server multiple times.
Thanks
DELL-Marco B
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December 21st, 2021 04:00
That's very strange.
In the H730p controller BIOS you should see the ROC and IOC temperature, can you check which is the value?
Also, you can export PERC TTY logs with PERCCLI using this procedure
https://dell.to/32g6a9p
Maybe there are some information about some errors in the PERC.
Check also the environment the server is in, and try to reseat PERC again.
Also if other components in the server are overheating.
Thanks
Marco
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December 21st, 2021 07:00
The issue exists with no controller plugged in. As soon as a drive is inserted into the backplane, fans ramp up.
Disk temps are all ~26c.
CPUs are at ~35c. System board inlet temp is currently ~16c.
PERC has been reseated multiple times now.
DELL-Marco B
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December 21st, 2021 09:00
I suggest you to perform a IDRAC reset from web interface (idrac reset, not reset to default setting).
I think that the reset you performed just reset default settings, but it doesn't reset the idrac.
If it doesn't work i think there is an hardware issue on the motherboard.
Thanks
Marco
joneilosco
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December 21st, 2021 10:00
iDRAC reset from web interface has sadly made no difference.
Is there any way of checking what could be triggering a hardware issue as you describe?
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December 21st, 2021 12:00
Hello joneilosco,
When fans are running high; Can you confirm if all fans are running? If one fan is failed the others may ramp up to compensate.
Do you have the cover installed? Fans will also run high if the side is removed. Try reseating the fans.
Have you checked the system event log and lifecycle log, in the DRAC, for any error messages related to the issue?
Next I would recommend running the built in diagnostics
Boot to F11 on Dell Splash screen, selecting Boot Manager -> System Utilities -> Launch Dell Diagnostics. Note any messages and continue testing.
joneilosco
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December 29th, 2021 12:00
Hi Charles,
Both fans are running (and at the same speed).
The cover is installed.
Fans have been reseated several times since this issue began.
System event logs and lifecycle log are both error free.
Pre-boot diagnostics has come back with no errors. Oddly, I had to disconnect the optical drive. With it installed, diagnostics was reporting a CD drive that doesn't exist and would hang waiting for it to become ready. With no drive connected fans still run at the same speed, even after draining flee power and resetting iDRAC.
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December 29th, 2021 13:00
Joneilosco,
I would suggest taking the server to its minimum to post configuration, which is removing everything internally and externally but the following;
•One processor (CPU) in socket processor 1
•One memory module (DIMM) in socket A1
•One power supply unit
•System board
•Control panel
Once everything is removed then power up and see if the fans ramp up. If they don't then power back down and then individually add the removed devices back, each time powering up to see if the fans ramp up, this will help identify the part causing the issue.
Let us know what you see.
joneilosco
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December 29th, 2021 13:00
Hi Chris,
Fans will slow down within seconds of removing all hard drives. These are the same drives that have been in use for over a year with no issues until now.
joneilosco
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December 30th, 2021 02:00
Hi Erman,
The problem does persist when using the original controller.
I don't have any alternative SAS cables to troubleshoot with unfortunately, however storage devices appear to be perfectly functional.
I'm using the "Performance per Watt (OS)" system profile, so C1E is enabled.
DELL-Erman O
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December 30th, 2021 02:00
Hello,
As far as I can see in previous posts, you have already done many troubleshooting steps and firmware updates. It's interesting that the fan speeds slow down when you remove the latest drives. Does the problem persist when you plug in the old controller? In case there is a problem with the parts of the SAS-chain, if you have the opportunity to try, can you change the SAS cables and try?
Apart from these, I would recommend you to try these two settings by changing the BIOS, disabling "Turbo Boost" option in BIOS setup. Or, if C1E is disabled, the fans can run at high speed to cool the CPU, Can you check C1E is enabled. These setups may be a workaround till new FWs released because if there is no hardware issue I'm suspect current FWs.
In the F2 BIOS, SystemBIOS > System Profile Settings >
joneilosco
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December 30th, 2021 03:00
No warnings in iDRAC.
Fan speed is around 2.9k or 55% PWM.
Fan Speed Offset is off.
DELL-Erman O
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December 30th, 2021 03:00
Hi, Could you check system event logs on iDRAC? Is there any warning? What is the current Fan speed RPMs? and Could you check Fan speed is still Off, System Setup > iDRAC Settings > Thermal > Fan Speed Offset > Off