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March 11th, 2013 10:00

Clone a failing HDD

I have a colleague with an XP Pro Vostro 200 tower PC, that has an HDD that is starting to show SMART warnings on boot up.

I'd very much like to avoid having to reinstall all her applications and data from scratch. Can the ailing HDD be cloned onto a new HDD, and if so what tools will manage this without falling foul of any hidden partition/MBR/Media partition problems?

Thanks

Dave

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March 11th, 2013 12:00

Dave_YorkEMC

You might be able to clone a hard drive, that has not completely failed and still works, but remember that it will be a mirror image, therefore be certain that existing drive has no corruption or virus on it, as these will be transfered to the new hard drive.

Bev.

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March 11th, 2013 16:00

Hi Dave,

Let me add that, if this is the original operating system installation, the system is undoubtedly bogged down with hard drive detritus. Your colleague is far better off with a clean installation of the OS and applications.

March 12th, 2013 03:00

Hi bev and Osprey4, thanks for the suggestions so far. I can do a clean installation if necessary, but what I was hoping to do was to replace the disk with as little fuss as possible, and get her machine into a healthier state without spending a day away from what I should be doing, downloading endless updates and configuring a new install. It's a works machine, and she's "tidy" in her habits, so there's little in the way of disk clutter and extraneous software doodads.

If I was to get a replacement disk from Dell, would it come preconfigured with any recovery partition "stuff" or would it be a blank, with the image set up by the Dell recovery CD/DVD?

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March 12th, 2013 07:00

The reinstall disc requires a manual install and will only install the operating system - not the other partitions.  

You may be able to clone the entire disc before it fails - it's worth a try;  sometimes, it works - other times, it won't but if it does, it can be  a great time saver.

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March 12th, 2013 08:00

With XP and a relatively new version of Acronis (the full version - not the limited one supplied for free by the drive makers) it will work just fine.  I've done this with Acronis many times.

The only Dell systems that had trouble with Acronis were the ones that shipped with a Media Direct partition - and those were notebooks, not desktops -- at least most of them were.

March 12th, 2013 08:00

@ ejn63, that's what I'm looking for, however I understand that not everyone has had success with Acronis and other hard disk cloning software, on account of the hidden partitions. I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool that was known to work.

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March 12th, 2013 08:00

The software that comes with Apricorn Drive wire works fine up to windows 7.  Windows 8 drives cannot be cloned however.

Norton Ghost only works up to 7 also.  The current version of acronis claims to work with windows 8.  The reason I like the drive wire is that you get a bootable CD and dont have to install anything.

 

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March 12th, 2013 13:00

 

I've been cloning/imaging Windows 8 hard drives, using Arcronis 2013, without any issues.

Bev.

March 14th, 2013 03:00

Thanks everyone for your help, I'll try this out. If you don't hear from me again - it's worked!

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March 14th, 2013 08:00

Thanks everyone for your help, I'll try this out. If you don't hear from me again - it's worked!

 
Dave_YorkEMC
 
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If you are sucessful, I'm sure the members would appreciate a heads up about the results. :emotion-5:
 
Bev.

May 1st, 2013 03:00

Apologies for the the length of time before getting back about this, however this is what we did:

- bought a replacement Western Digital disk

- fitted into the case using a spare internal SATA port

- booted the system up with an Ultimate Boot CD (www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html)

- started up Parted Magic, which found both drives and then gave listed prompts towards cloning the disk

- after about 1/2 hour, all done. Swapped out the old dodgy disk, and everything is now back as it was. The Dell hidden recovery partition is there, so you still get the usual Dell boot options.

I can't definitely say this would work on a disk with the Media Partition on it, not having tried it myself, but given how easily this worked I would certainly recommend trying it.

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May 1st, 2013 06:00

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Glad to hear it worked out for you and I appreciate the heads up.

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May 1st, 2013 12:00

@ ejn63, that's what I'm looking for, however I understand that not everyone has had success with Acronis and other hard disk cloning software, on account of the hidden partitions. I was wondering if anyone knew of a tool that was known to work.

The Linux utilities dd and ddrescue will make sector level copies of the entire disk, including any hidden partitions. Both are free.

I used ddrescue to image a failing hard drive that shut down whenever one of its several bad sectors was accessed.

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