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October 17th, 2006 17:00

DOS driver for the LiteOn SATA CD drive in an Optiplex 745

Has anyone found a CD-ROM.sys (or whatever) file that works for these drives? 
 
The good ol' NEC_IDE.SYS no longer works, I have to assume because the drive is no longer NEC nor IDE.  Drivers.com and those places don't seem to have very much available from 2003 on - unless I am using the wrong search terms...

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October 18th, 2006 00:00

There are no SATA Dos drivers just like there are no NT 4.0 usb drivers. They dont exist and never will. If you need IDE get an IDE to sata usb bridge and then use DOS USB drivers.

October 18th, 2006 15:00

Thanks. 
 
I was coming to that conclusion.  Since I've found that Microsoft no longer licenses DOS, it is kind of a moot point anyway... 
 
I appreciate the tip!

October 18th, 2006 15:00

So is any one worked out a way to Ghost using a CD?

October 18th, 2006 18:00

I'm working on it now.  I'll have something fairly soon and will post a detailed walk through as I did for the 270/280 Ghost boot CD.
 
In the mean time, you can follow my progress here: Optiplex 745, Ghost, WinPE, DRMK DOS, Software Assurance and DOS=DOA

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October 20th, 2006 13:00

In XP when you want to format a floppy a checkbox option is to "CREATE MSDOS STARTUP DISK"


Microsoft also allows Downgrade Rights so technically they do still licence dos.

There are also other DOS types like IBM DOS7 and DR DOS and a few others.

Ghost definitely works with MSDOS and IBM DOS.


Ghost32 works with 2000/XP

Corporate versions of ghost also do over the network installs and imaging.

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October 29th, 2006 13:00

Msdos is Licenced and Legal to use in newer versions of windows.
What would not be legal would be to put MSDOS onto systems for sale without the
Windows software included with the sale.
 
Downgrade Rights - Your agreement grants you the option, "during the term of this agreement to run the most current version, or any previous version of the Software." During the term of your agreement when new versions of the software release, you have the automatic right to deploy those upgrades. You also have the right to run any previous version of the software as needed. These upgrade and downgrade rights also apply to the individual components of the software.  In order to do this you do need 1 licence for each machine used of the most current windows.  However you are not required to run the software with the most current version on the machines.
 
Windows XP includes the Ability to make an MDDOS Startup Floppy.
Even the concept of Multi booting is covered in this. 
 

If you want to multiple boot operating systems, install the operating systems in the following order:
1. MS-DOS
2. Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me
3. Windows NT
4. Windows 2000
5. Windows XP
 
Install each operating system according to the standard installation procedure. You can start the following operating systems from the boot loader (Osloader) screen:
• Windows 95, Windows 98, or Windows Me
• Windows NT
• Windows 2000
• Windows XP
 
 
To create an MS-DOS startup disk
The MS-DOS startup disk you create will allow you to boot into MS-DOS.
1. Insert a floppy disk into your computer's floppy drive.
2. Open My Computer, and then click the floppy disk drive to select it.
3. On the File menu, point to the name of the floppy drive, and then click Format.
4. Under Format options, click Create an MS-DOS startup disk.
5. Click Start.
 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/252448
 
Windows NT Had a Newtork Client Tool that specifically was for making MSDOS
network startup disks.
Windows 2000 does not contain an equivalent to the the Network Client Administrator tool that is included with Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0. The Network Client Administrator tool is used to create a MS-DOS network startup disk.It is possible to run the Network Client Administrator tool for the x86 platform in Windows 2000.
 
Setting up the Network Client Administrator Program
1. Create a folder called C:\Ncadmin.
2. Copy the following files from the I386 folder on the Windows NT Server 4.0 CD-ROM to the folder you created:
Ncadmin.cn_
Ncadmin.ex_
Ncadmin.hl_
NOTE: You may need the CDROM letter:\Clients folder from the Windows NT 4.0 CD-ROM.
3. At a command prompt, change to the C:\Ncadmin folder, and then type the following   
command: expand -r ncadmin.*
4. Double-click Ncadmin.exe, and then follow the instructions for creating a Network Installation Startup Disk.
 
 

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October 29th, 2006 19:00

This may be nothing more than a virus OR it may be legit.  No way to tell.
Best advice remove your hard drives and see if a boot floppy with this driver actually finds the CDROM.
 
I dont have a new system so I cannot tell.
 
Translated from Korean
 
Your mileage may vary
 
FROM
 
 
 
Serial ATA IDE CD/DVD driver 
 
--- config.sys ---
DEVICE=GCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD000 /C0
DEVICE=GCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD001 /C1
DEVICE=GCDROM.SYS /D:MSCD002 /C2
--- autoexec.bat ---
echo.
echo --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
echo.
echo   SATA Native IDE CD/DVD-ROM driver ( **not support legacy mode PATA ) for
DOS.
echo   It support all SATA Native IDE controller, such as Intel ICH6/ICH7/ICH8,
echo   JMicron 361/363/368, NVidia CK804/MCP55/MCP51 etc....
echo.
echo.
echo  ELITEGROUP COMPUTER SYSTEMS KOREA (ECS KOREA)
echo  web : http://www.ecs-korea.com
echo.
echo --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
echo.
echo.
pause
MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD000 /D:MSCD001 /D:MSCD002

Message Edited by SpeedStep on 10-29-2006 04:45 PM

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October 29th, 2006 20:00

From another site.
Apparently GIGABYTE made the driver GCDROM.SYS
Motherboard GA-965P-DQ6
Intel P965+ ICH8R chipset
 
From the FAQ
How to access IDE CD/DVD ROM connected from INTEL 965 SATA2 controller under DOS?
Create a bootable MSDOS disk from XP this is a format option for floppy
Unzip the DOS drivers and
copy all to bootable DOS disk Boot up with this disk
 
 
 

Message Edited by SpeedStep on 10-29-2006 05:08 PM

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October 31st, 2006 17:00

I just spent the day fighting this issue on an Optiplex 745. I found that if you go into SETUP and go under Drives, SATA Operation, and change the setting to Legacy you will be able to boot to CDs and load images from your server.

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November 19th, 2006 10:00

To ghost with 2003 CD on the optiplex 740 you can set the hard drive from normal to legacy in the bios. You may need to run chkdsk.
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