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June 26th, 2014 09:00

need software to manually mark a bad block at NTFS

I have a disk with a single broken sector. SMART shows 0 reallocated sectors and 0 pending sectors.
Unfortunately, this that sector can not be fixed in usual way by forcing
HDD controller to remap it, as the HDD complitetely hungs on attempt to write to the sector.
There is no need to restore data: I have an backup. Replacing the HDD is not an option.
So chkdsk as well as other tools which are scan and restore data will not help me.
What I need is a way to mark as bad for Windows known sector (or claster, which I could count)

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June 26th, 2014 18:00

Hi Valentine_me,

Try Seatools for DOS.

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June 26th, 2014 20:00

Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately, SeaTools also fixes BB by rewriting it, to force remapping. In my case this will hung the HDD.

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June 27th, 2014 08:00

There is no software Fix for a physically bad Hard drive.

Replacing the drive is REQUIRED.

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June 27th, 2014 08:00

I am sorry for my english. Probably, I have formulatedthe questio bad. Please, help me to express me better.

What are 3 main point of the question I am asking:

1. Replacing in not an option.

2. I do not need neither repair BB nor restore data

3. I just need a way to MARK the sector as BB for Windows. As there is a $BadClus metafile, it is a way to add a sector/cluster to it - I am sure someone know that way.

Could you help me to make a proper question, which will not receive "you have to replace" answers?

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June 27th, 2014 15:00

You don't need special software  -- a simple chkdsk /r will mark the existing bad blocks so they are not used in the future.  As has been noted though, the cascade has been started and more blocks will go bad in the future, until the drive is unusable.

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June 27th, 2014 20:00

Scandisk is the tool I've started with. Unfortunately, it hungs the disk as well.

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June 28th, 2014 04:00

Sounds like the bad sector in question is used by the drive for tracking - in other words, follow the advice above.  Replace the drive - this one is too far gone for even temporary salvage.

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June 28th, 2014 04:00

Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately, i am looking for software to mark BB sector/clucter as BB for Windows in NTFS. Probably using $BadClus metafile

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June 28th, 2014 08:00

If chkdsk from a command prompt (NOT scandisk under Windows) doesn't work, neither will anything else - the drive is too far gone. 

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June 29th, 2014 05:00

There is a lot of tools that may do something, which can be done with Windows tools (sysinternals is a good exampe); and there is a whole world outside of Windows. The fact that chkdsk can't mark the readable-but-not-writtable claster as bad, doesn't mean that it cann't be marked at all. Do you know anything about $BadClus metafile? If you do, please, share your knowledges. If not, probably we both are new in this area, let's wait someone more experienced.

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June 29th, 2014 09:00

Seagate and Western Digital provide utilities for working with their drives at the sector level - if your drive is a Seagate (or Samsung, owned by Seagate) or WD (or HGST, owned by WD), try the respective utility (SeaTools or DataLifeguard).  If it's a Toshiba drive, you're out of luck since Toshiba doesn't have such a utility for its drives.

If that doesn't work, you can try all you want - the drive is beyond hope.

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June 29th, 2014 10:00

Thank you for the suggestion.The drive is Seagate.

SeaTools is an utility for disk check, it also allows to set noise level. At least nothing more is noted in its description. It does not allow to mark sector/claster as BB. It attempts to scan. There is no need to scan - I already know where is the faulty sector.

There is no need to repair the drive. Ok, just for fun, I have a 40Gb drive with 10Gb ok (no BB)-10Gb almost completely ruined area (unpartitioned, of course)-20Gb almost ok (some BB), which is stable (no more BB) about 6 years. It is working without any problems in a device with no critical data. Same way I may split this disk, but for now I want one partition for the whole disk. If it will continue to degrade, it will be replaced. But for now all I looking for - is a way to mark BB sector/cluster under NTFS, which is a filesystem-specific task, not a disk (lowlevel) task. It is easy under FAT, but I never worked with NTSF at filesystem level, thus I looking for help.

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June 29th, 2014 11:00

Though you seem not to want to listen, the answer is called chkdsk /f.  If it doesn't work, the drive is not salvageable.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_xp-performance/ntfs-bad-blocks-errors-in-the-event-viewer/c4c1b831-7760-4c34-a97b-5644b2fd9b6a

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June 29th, 2014 11:00

I have said nothing about running scandisk.  I said run chkdsk.  They're two different things.

Open a command prompt with administrative privilege or boot into command-prompt safe mode.

At the command prompt, type

chkdsk c: /f

The system will respond that the disc cannot be checked because it is in use (the other option is to boot to a command prompt using a USB flash drive or the Windows install DVD).  You'll be prompted to run chkdsk on next startup. Answer Y (yes) and restart the system.  A full chkdsk will run the next time you boot the system.

If this does not work, the bad block is positioned in a system-critical place on the drive and the drive is beyond salvage.

Note again:  a command-line run of chkdsk is NOT the same as scandisk under Windows.  You MUST RUN the utility from a command prompt and let the scan complete OUTSIDE of Windows protected mode for it to have a chance at working.

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June 29th, 2014 11:00

Sorry for my English, probably i express myself wrong.

let me try again.

I am loooking for software, which is able to mark the known sector/cluster as BB in NTFS.

Scandisk /f does not help me, as it SCAN the disk. There is no need to SCAN. I already know (using Victoria) the exact sector. And yes, for sure I've tryed scandisk /f. It fails. It hungs the disk when hits that exact sector.

Again. The question  is not "how to fix HDD" The question is "how to mark known sector/claster as BB in NTFS". Without scanning. You repetedly answer to someone other's question. Thank you a lot, but my question is different.

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