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May 1st, 2008 14:00

Help with a fresh install on an E520

I need help with a WinXP fresh install on a Dimension E520.

 

It’s pretty much a standard config.  E520 -P4 3.06 HT,  533, 512 mb, 80 GB WDJ800 SATA on Port 0, TSST DVD+/-RW SATA on Port 4, USB mouse and keyboard, integrated video, integrated network, integrated audio, WinXP Media Center Edition SP2,  BIOS Version DM061 2.4.0 

 

The system failed to boot from the HDD, presenting the “Last boot failed..” message and prompts for booting to Safe Mode, Last Known Good Config, Start Windows Normally, etc.

 

The system won’t boot to Safe Mode, it locks up after loading several drivers at kmxstart.sys. 

 

The system won’t boot to Last Known Configuration or Start Normally.  It simply locks up after selecting any of those options.  It won’t warm boot to recover from any of those selections.  It requires a cold boot. 

 

So, I’ve attempted a fresh install of the OS both with the Factory Restore CD and with a retail WinXP Pro CD, making sure to have all the proper SATA / RAID drivers loaded and with the BIOS drive selection alternately in RAID and AutoDetect / ATA .  Additionally, I’ve spent hours attempting to load the OS with all possible combinations of the integrated devices enabled or disabled.  Always with the same result.. no go. 

 

The system will boot from the setup CD and Setup begins normally, text mode loading drivers then locks up at the text-mode “Starting Windows”.  The system doesn’t BSOD and won’t progress to the GUI..  It hangs when it gets to the text-mode portion of Setup. 

 

I’ve swapped in known good memory and another known good WDJ800 to no avail.  I’ve tried the drives in all the available SATA ports on the MB. 

 

The system passes all diagnostics on the Resource CD (run continuously over the weekend.) 

 

For further diagnostics, I’ve attempted to boot from a BartPE CD (again, with all the proper SATA drivers installed).  Bart loads and then hangs at “Starting..” 

 

I’ve also attempted to boot from an Ubuntu 8.04 LiveCD.  The Linux kernel loads and then the display fills with continuous repeating, scrolling lines of text that state “unexpected irq trap at Vector 12” 

 

My next thought is it’s a bad motherboard. 

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you!

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May 2nd, 2008 00:00

Have you disconnected all peripherals except mouse, monitor & keyboard?

 

If BIOS is set to RAID AUTODETECT/ATA, you should not load the SATA drivers. If it's set to RAID, then you have to load the SATA drivers. It's either one way or the other, you can't mix/match them.

 

Have you tried reseating RAM and PCI cards in their slots? Have you tried installing XP after removing all PCI cards except video?

 

Have you tried a different SATA cable, and/or checked that it's properly connected at both ends? Is there a jumper setting on the HD that needs to be changed?

 

Have you tried cleaning NVRAM by disconnecting PC from the wall, removing the battery from the motherboard and pressing/holding the power button on front of the tower for ~30 sec?

 

And if you're still under warranty, contact Dell Tech Support for assistance.

 

Ron 

 

 

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May 2nd, 2008 12:00

Thanks for your response and help.

 

The only peripherals in use are monitor, keyboard and mouse.  I've even tried the boot with no mouse (as irq 12 seemingly pointed to by Ubuntu is usually the mouse interrupt.)

 

I tried all the combinations (I guess it seems, even the invalid ones) of RAID non-RAID drivers and BIOS settings.  None of those options worked.

 

All the PCI card slots are empty.  RAM was reseated when I installed known good RAM.  I even tried different different memory slots on the motherboard to rule out a bad socket.

 

I've tried the new HDD and used new cables with it, checking the HDD jumpers as well and swapping to different ports on the mother board.  The BIOS does see the HDD.

 

I hadn't tried clearing the NVRAM so I did that this morning.  No change, the symptoms persist.

 

Unfortunately the system is out of warranty.

 

Keith

 

 

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May 2nd, 2008 17:00

What color are the diagnostics LEDs on the tower?

 

Bum motherboard? :(

 

Ron 

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May 2nd, 2008 17:00

All four diagnostic lights display solid green and then turn off.  Seems to indicate normal operation.

 

Yes, I'm afraid the only component left IS the motherboard..

 

Thanks for the help and suggestions..  I guess it's off to eBay to price a motherboard..

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May 2nd, 2008 23:00

Hang in for a bit. I've asked the forum gurus if they have any useful ideas, since I don't seem to be of any help here.

 

Ron 

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May 3rd, 2008 00:00

Maybe this can help

 

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310760/en-us

 

Other suggestions.

 

 

1. Update the bios to the latest version if it is not already.

 

2.  Shut down the PC, unplug the power cord and hold the power button in for 15 seconds.

Open the case and remove the cmos battery for 15 Minutes (note the polarity of the battery before removal) Reinsert the battery after 15 Minutes, close the case and plug it in, then do the following before doing anything else. (replace cmos battery with a new one if it is older than 3 years) You may want to replace it in your case, a faulty cmos battery can cause all kinds of weird problems.

Power up the PC
* Watch the keyboard lights. When they flash, tap the F2 key
* The message, Entering Setup should appear
* Down arrow to Maintenance
* Choose Load Defaults
* Click Continue - Restore factory defaults

If XP install fails again, repeat the procedure, this time leave the cmos battery out for 24 hours.

Message Edited by mombodog on 05-02-2008 08:22 PM

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May 5th, 2008 14:00

This is indeed in "interesting" problem.

 

Since you get the problem in linux as well as Windows then I'm pretty sure its not a driver issue.  The latest BIOS for the E520 is http://ftp.dell.com/bios/DM061-020400.EXE (v 2.4.0 from July 2007), and I agree with the others suggestion to update to or reinstall it.

 

When booting off the linux CD, did you happen to notice what it loaded just before it starts throwing the "unexpected irq trap" message?  That might give us a clue to what is failing ...

 

There is a jumper on the motherboard for clearing the CMOS.  You might want to try that before mombodog's suggestion, simply because its faster.  The directions for this are on page 121 of the Owners Manual.  If that doesn't work then I also recommend the steps mombodog listed for replacing the battery and/or resetting the CMOS.

 

The only other thing I can think of, unfortunately, is the motherboard itself.

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May 5th, 2008 14:00

Knerby,

 

I just experienced an almost identical problem with an Inspiron E1505.  As with your E520, it passed all internal diagnostics, including the DST (Drive Short Test), yet kept giving a "boot sector not found on internal hard drive" at boot.  Would not boot UBCD, Windows XP MCE 2005, or Windows XP Pro CD.  All started loading drivers then hung at blank Blue screen, no messages.  Remove hard drive.  UBCD would boot and OSes would boot to Setup screen.  Reinstalled HD. Removed DVD/CD drive, and thesystem gave the same error. 

 

I removed the coin-cell CMOS battery, left it out for 24 hours.  No change.  I flashed BIOS to latest.  Same result.  Installed hard drive in another E1505.  It booted fine.  Installed the other E1505 hard drive in the problem machine, and once again received "boot sector not found..." error.

 

I made images of all four partitions by connecting the drive to my bench machine, then copied the client's data files to DVD.  I installed a brand new, blank 80Gb Toshiba laptop drive.  Still couldn't boot with any OS. Loaded drivers, then blank blue screen.

 

For the time being, I have laid it aside.  I'm about 95% sure that the motherboard is either defective or has a critical drive controller circuit thats hung in an undefined state.  The client does not want to spend the money to replace the motherboard.

 

In closing, I would like to note that the the kmxstart.sys file is part of Computer Associates firewall protection engine, and has a known security vulnerability.  I had a similar problem with a bug that corrupted the virtual engine startup files of an Internet Security program.  The solution in that case was to do a repair install of XP to replace the system files, yet preserve the client's existing data files and installed applications.

 

Tony 

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May 5th, 2008 15:00

The system is running the latest BIOS 2.4.0 and I've refreshed it.  I followed the suggestion to clear NVRAM (the long way) and then using the motherboard jumpers.  I replaced the CMOS battery as well because they are fairly inexpensive

 

The Ubunto cd boots to a graphical interface that prompts for the users language and then presents an option screen to 'Run from CD', 'Install the distro' and a few other options.  Selecting either 'Run from CD' or 'Install to HDD' opens another window with a progress bar that says "Loading linux kernel...".  When the progress bar reaches the end, the display flips to text mode and fills with lines of the "unexpected irq trap" error message.  Each line of that error is consecutively numbered, so you can see it's constantly repeating and not hung.  If there's another error message that preceeds the 'trap' message, it is replaced so fast as to be unreadable.

 

Thanks again for your suggestions!!

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May 5th, 2008 17:00

Knerby,

Sure looks like you got a can of worms there! :o

 

My thanks, as well, to all who've offered suggestions. I hope one of their ideas will put the worms back where they belong.

 

Ron 

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