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November 2nd, 2011 23:00

How to install Windows XP Pro on my new XPS 8300?

For some reason I need Windows XP on my new XPS 8300. I have the CD and key and was trying to install by booting from the CD. Everything seemed to go fine until I got the blue screen crash. Tried many times with no luck. According to my research I'll need to either 1) disable the ACHI mode in BIOS and enable IDE (or compatibility) mode or 2) have SATA driver during installation.  

My BIOS doesn't have an option to enable IDE or Compatibility mode. I updated the BIOS. The new version is A09 or something like that. Same problem.

If I try the second option, where do I find the SATA driver??

Many thanks if you can help.

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November 3rd, 2011 04:00

Dell does not support XP on this model so you will also be faced with trying to find device drivers for all the Dell motherboard hardware, which will be a problem.

But, if you are going to try it, use a separate hard drive to install XP, do not use the original drive as you will corrupt the drive and the Dell recovery that is on the hard drive (accessed by F8 at POST) will no longer be useable.

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November 3rd, 2011 09:00

As Firebird said, this may not be more of a problem than it's worth.

First ... why do you "need" to install XP on this nice machine?

Even if you could disable AHCI/SATA in the BIOS, it is a bad idea - it turns off everything about a SATA drive that makes it better than the ten-year-old IDE technology.  A horrible way to treat an XPS computer :)

However, if you must ... you will need the chipset driver from Intel for AHCI/SATA (iata_enu.exe):

downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx

Since XP can only get this driver from a floppy disk, you will either need to use a floppy to feed the driver to Windows at the F6 prompt during Setup.  Since you probably don't have a floppy drive on this computer, floppies are unreliable, and who has floppies anymore (?!?), you can use nLiteOS.com instead to "integrate" the driver into your installation media.  This will create a new CD from which you can install.  (During nLite's setup, choose Multiple Drivers, select all drivers presented, and then choose TextMode drivers.)

After that, maybe we can help try to find drivers for other devices, but there isn't much point if you can't get this far.

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November 5th, 2011 10:00

Well long story short, there's a program that I bought my XPS for and it only runs on Windows XP. I wish I had known this before I bought it. Anyway I figured this is merely an inconvenience. How hard can it be to install Windows XP right??

Here is what I have tried, and to no avail yet. But I can tell I'm getting closer.

I downloaded Intel chipset driver iata_enu.exe and nLiteOS. Was trying to integrate the driver onto the installation CD. Went though all the steps following the tutorial and the direction. However nLite OS won't let me integrate the .exe file. Evidently it only allows .inf files - understandably so. My hunch is that the iata_enu.exe file is a self-extracting program that will extracts the real driver. So I tried to run it on my Win 7, but it won't. I some how dug up an old laptop on XP, it won't run either. So my question is:

How do I get the .inf file for the SATA drive?? Or am I doing something wrong here?

Thanks a lot!

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November 5th, 2011 10:00

Sorry, usually this is a self-extracting file (yes, you do need to run it to extract the files first), but that one I gave you al ink for is not that type - it is the RST application for monitoring the drives.

You will need this file (you need to run and extract the files before using with nLite):
downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx

What program are you trying to get run?
Have you tried running the program with the Compatibility Mode and Run As Administrator boxes checked?
What version of Windows 7 are you using?

If using Professional or Ultimate, you can download and install XP Mode (a fully licensed "virtual machine" of XP that runs on top of Windows 7 for the express purpose of running XP-compatible software that won't run on Windows 7).  If you have Home Premium, you can upgrade to Pro for as little as $60.  Or, assuming you are using a valid license for the version of XP you are trying to install, you can install that as a virtual machine inside of Windows 7 using a number of different virtualization programs.  This might be your best option.

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January 23rd, 2012 07:00

I finally got windows XP 64 bit to install into a XPS 8300. First of all no matter what hard drive I installed I always got a BSOD (stop code x7b). I removed all hard drives and I still got BSOD. So I replaced the SATA dvd-rom with a USB dvd-rom we had around the office. That finally got it out of the BSOD. Next I grabbed whatever driver I could find related to the intel H67 chipset and reburned a Windows XP DVD using nlite.

Intel drivers I used:

downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx*&DownloadType=Drivers#help

downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx*&DownloadType=Drivers

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February 18th, 2012 11:00

You youngsters don't seem to understand that some people are using legacy software that works beautifully on XP, but either won't run at all on 7 or very poorly, because so little memory is allocated to the XP emulator.  Furthermore, there is some great legacy hardware that 7 won't recognize and the manufactures don't want to provide updates.

Example of first: I have a Fortran compiler which runs in a very convenient environment. I bought it about 20 years ago, and have become pretty expert at using it.  I am working on a lengthy research paper, possibly a book, and I have to keep producing special programs to do the necessary calculations for it.  It would cost me thousands of dollars to replace it, not to mention months of retraining to use it efficiently.  I am 79 years old, and I want to finish the book as quickly as I can because of failing health. I don't care if Microsoft isn't going to support XP much longer.  I probably will have to quit productive work in a couple of years anyway. Unfortunately, the motherboard in my older Dell died and my only option seemed to be to buy this 8300 and use the XP emulator.  All kinds of problems there, including having to share most of the memory with Win 7.

Also, I have used Palm PDAs for more than a decade to collect all kinds of data.  They run a very complete version of Excel and limited Word support.  Very convenient calendar and contacts features, which I can synch easily with XP machines at home and office.   I can quickly check when and where I met with someone up to 12 years ago, etc.

Since Win 7 prefers beauty to legibility, my eyes have trouble interpreting lightly shaded characters on shaded backgrounds.  Everything I run on XP has clear black fonts on white backgrounds.  Apparently no one thinks about that.

I began using computers in the early 60s.  I had to write boot routines in 1s and 0s.  I built interfaces for my lab equipment to an early computer and wrote the code in assembly language.  I built my first two home computers.

The lesson I have learned during the past 5+ decades is to stick with what works for you, rather than buying the latest gizmos and wasting a lot of time learning to use them, if you want to produce a lot of research.

I'm an ancient experimental physicist, but still active

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February 18th, 2012 11:00

Just to add one thing to your problems with virtualization ("emulator") ... you can assign more than the default of 256MB of RAM to your XP Mode virtual machine in Settings.  If your 8300 has 8GB of RAM, you can dedicate 4GB of that to XP Mode.  You can dedicate more than 4GB of RAM to an XPx64 virtual machine if using other virtualization software like VirtualBox or VMWare.  You can even specify how many of the processing cores/threads are dedicated to that virtual machine.  The 8300 will take up to 16GB, so you can load it up and give an XP VM all the memory you need to, while still keeping enough available to the Windows 7 host machine to do what you want/need to.

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February 18th, 2012 12:00

You don't have to disable AHCI to get Windows XP to install. The easy way to get around the problem you are describing is to install a budget SATA card like the Syba SD-SATA-1E-1I and use it to boot. Then, use Intel's online driver update site to install any missing drivers. When all the drivers have been installed, you can remove the SATA card (or leave it in).

My mini-ITX box has a late model Gigabyte H67 board with Core i5 quad-core CPU and AHCI enabled, with a smooth-running XP 32-bit install originally created in the fall of 2004 for a now-ancient Athlon.

FYI, in contrast to the geek stereotype of young, sexy, and hip, most of us here are middle-age, portly, and square.

Edit: if visual problems are your main issue with Windows 7, you can disable the fancy Aero effects. And, there is a "high contrast" color scheme for the visually impaired.

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