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April 1st, 2005 23:00
System wont boot after partition resize
I recently ran out of space on one of my drives that was partitioned about a year ago so i downloaded a programme called "Partition Magic 8.0" to resize my partition to try allocate more space to the drive that was full. After running the programme it asked me if i want to reboot my computer now....i agreed but now its not working. Every time i try to boot it all i get is a screen saying the following:
"We apologise for te inconvenience, but Windows did not start successfully. A recent hardware of roftware change might have caused this.
If your computer stopped responding, restarted unexpectedly, or was automatically shut down to protect your files and folders, choose Last Known Good Configuration to revert to the most recent settings that worked.
If a previous startup attempt was interrupted due to a power failure or because the Power or Reset button was pressed, or if you aren't sure what caused the problem, choose Start Windows Normally.
SAFE MODE
SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING
SAFE MODE WITH COMMAND PROMPT
LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGURATION
START WINDOWS NORMALLY"
"We apologise for te inconvenience, but Windows did not start successfully. A recent hardware of roftware change might have caused this.
If your computer stopped responding, restarted unexpectedly, or was automatically shut down to protect your files and folders, choose Last Known Good Configuration to revert to the most recent settings that worked.
If a previous startup attempt was interrupted due to a power failure or because the Power or Reset button was pressed, or if you aren't sure what caused the problem, choose Start Windows Normally.
SAFE MODE
SAFE MODE WITH NETWORKING
SAFE MODE WITH COMMAND PROMPT
LAST KNOWN GOOD CONFIGURATION
START WINDOWS NORMALLY"
I have tried running my Windows XP installation cd but to no avail. The same screen keeps reappearing and noatter what option i choose it pops up again and again. I have tried pressing F8 and can get into Advanced Options but when i choose an option (for example to resore) it appears to dtect Windows XP and asks me if i want to boot from the CD....i try to do this but end up back where i began every time.....if anyone has any idea what i could do please let me know because i need to access info on the computer that i fear has died! Thanks
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Usurperr
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April 2nd, 2005 04:00
noceire
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April 2nd, 2005 10:00
noceire
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April 2nd, 2005 11:00
noceire
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April 2nd, 2005 14:00
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April 2nd, 2005 14:00
Lemmi
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April 2nd, 2005 20:00
noceire,
just to clarify things: you don't get into Windows, but you are not blocked always at the same screen? The various options (Windows could not start start normally - safe mode - last known good config and so on) are on a black screen. But then you report a Stop error code - which definitely would appear on a blue screen.
For the meaning of the Stop error codes and some suggestions to solve the related problems, look at this site: www.aumha.org/win5/bestop.htm.
24 is a NTFS FILE SYSTEM ERROR and I definitely would try to get your system working again for a backup before tackling the "start from CD" problem.
This is probably due to the fact that you have a very briefly appearing message in the process where it says "Press any key to boot from CD". This is easily overlooked, and therefore the system tries starting from hard drive as before. BUT: starting from your Windows CD would allow you to reinstall your operating system. Do you really want to do this? Are your important files on a different partition than the one Windows is installed on? Then, there is no harm doing it.
If OS and data are on the same partition, reinstalling XP means loosing your data as well. That's when it's worth looking for other solutions first.
Lemmi
noceire
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April 2nd, 2005 22:00
Thanks for your reply! Yeh the screen is black at first and contains the relevant options but if i restart the computer and press F8 before it enters this screen i am brought to a "Windows Advanced Options" screen. From here i can choose not to restart on system failure....this ultimately results in the blue screen appearing telling me that "A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to our computer". The previously mentioned STOP error code is then shown on screen.
I have done a search on google to try locate a solution to this problem but all the results indicate that i should boot from cd in BIOS mode(which doesnt work properly) or boot from a boot disk which again i cannot do. I guess i shouldnt reinstall Windows XP Pro based on your views because the partition that i previously made is based on the same drive. Is there any way i can remove my hard drive and connect it to another computer to try recover my data??
Thanks so much for your help!
Lemmi
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April 3rd, 2005 21:00
noceire,
If the partition with your data is on the same drive as the Windows partition, then it would not be affected by a reinstall of your operating system.
For example: I have one single drive with 3 partitions (C:, D: and E:). Windows and all programs are on C:. All my data, including "My documents" are on D: (E: is currently empty).
When I reinstall XP, everything on C: will be erased, as this partition will be reformatted during the install. But my data are on D: and still available after the fresh install. I have to reinstall my programs as well, but that's no problem as I have the CDs for them (or they are available with my data on D: if I downloaded them - because that's where I saved them).
That's to say that if you are sure that all important files are on a partition which is not C:, they should survive a reinstall.
Having said this, you should first check if your hard drive is okay. The Stop error code you mentioned indicates a problem with ntfs.sys, which allows reading files on your hard drive. This could be a corrupt file, but also a problem with your hard disk. Did you run the Dell Diagnostics? They should be available from the Advance Options Boot Screen (Boot to Utility Partition) or otherwise from the Dell Resource CD that came with your computer.
If the hard drive diagnostics don't detect any problems, then it might be worth trying the HD in a different computer. Make sure that the cable connections are the same (SATA? IDE? - you didn't give details about your system). That would allow you to backup your data before proceeding to a reinstall of Windows..
noceire
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April 4th, 2005 00:00
Right well i have an 80GB HDD partitioned into C and D.....C is for most things including programmes and documents: D is for all music and DVDs. Can you just clarify if i reinstall XP what will i loose(programmes/documents or Music/DVDs).
Silly as i am i havent run the diagnostic tool yet so ill give that a go and see what happens. In the mean time would you mind explaining SATA and IDE to me....i know what the stand for but thats about it. How do i know which cable ill need?? Sorry for the stupid questions! If nothing shows up from the diagnostic tool ill have to give the HDD option a go,trying it ou in my laptop(I hope thats possible?!) Il let you know what happens anyway this afternoon.
Again i owe you one for all your help....its great to finally talk to someone who can explain things in simple english yo me!
noceire
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April 4th, 2005 12:00
Lemmi,
I have run the diagnostic tool and all drives passed successfully. I assume now that this means my Windows XP Pro is corrupt in some way? Its probably best for me to reformat my hard drive now but the problem is getting my hard drive information onto another system to back it up first.....is there any way of connecting the HDD to a laptop?(I have a work laptop i could use with enough space to store the data) I have tried looking for connections to do this but i seem to be able to find every other conection apart from one linking a desktop tower HDD to a laptop.
Thanks again
Lemmi
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April 4th, 2005 22:00
noceire,
From the description of your partitions, you would loose everything on the the C drive (programs/documents) with a new install (your son's music on D: should be safe, however....).
Sorry to say this, but you will not be able to connect your desktop hard drive to your laptop. Maybe there is a way doing this, but I wouldn't know how to, and this seems to become a kind of private communication between the two of us.
The SATA/IDE thing is just about how your hard drive is connected to your motherboard inside the computer case.
Did you ever open your computer case? SATA (the more recent system) uses slim cables for that (all I have seen so far are blue, but that may be coincidental), whereas IDE drives use large thin data cables. You would see the same IDE cables connecting your CD/DVD and floppy drive to your motherboard. The only reason I mentioned that is that you may know a friend with a desktop computer who would be able to put your HD as a second HD into his system in order to backup the data. So if you have a SATA hard drive, a friend with an IDE based computer wouldn't be of any help, because his motherboard would not have the connectors needed to connect your drive, ok?
If you don't want to open your computer case to check the cabling, just post your model name and number (e.g. Dimension 8300). I should be able to find the details.
Don't worry, the diagnostics not reporting any problem give you a fair chance that the HD is physically ok and the data can be retrieved.
Keep smiling, all is not lost yet!
Lemmi
noceire
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April 4th, 2005 23:00
Lemmi
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April 5th, 2005 18:00
Hi noceire,
You are making progress - and I learned how easy it is to connect an HD to a laptop. Well done!
I wouldn't think the automatic hardware detection runs again if you reconnect a device that has been detected before.
However, it should show up in My Computer and Computer Management (but under Removable Storage in both cases).
The USB Mass Storage Device in Device Manager indicates that it is connected, hmmm. Did you check under "Disk Drives" in Device Manager? Removing and reconnecting a couple of times may work, or reinstalling the USB controller (although I don't see how it should have been adversely affected in a couple of hours...). Try a different USB device like an USB memory key first.
Sad news indeed that C: was not accessible - I do hope the retrieval software will work for you. To me it sounds as if the partition software caused the damage, but I have no experience with this kind of programs.
Good luck!
Lemmi
noceire
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April 5th, 2005 22:00
Hi Lemmi,
Well they say you learn something new every day!! Anyway ive checked under "Disk Drives" and it appears to be present....strange one this is.....The bad news again for the time being is that i have no access to the relevant C partition so until such stage as its detected im going nowhere.....well i have thought of one other option maybe you could tell me if this might work: Could i add the HDD to someone elses computer by connecting it internally instead of via a USB connection?? I was thinking that maybe that way no detection device is really necessary as it should be physically detected if its connected directly to the system. Another possibility would be perhaps for me to format a spare HDD and install XP on that and have my "corrupt" drive as a kind of slave drive or secondary drive??.....im clutching at straws here in the hope i even get a chance to run this recovery software.
Thanks again for your help and patience......i have a hammer on standby to sort this hard drive out!!:smileywink:
Lemmi
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April 6th, 2005 22:00