I really wouldn't mind doing a clean install - have recently done it with 2000 so don't have much data to preserve. And you're right, of course, that clean is cleaner :-)
But I'm just curious as to why MS says you can. Do you think this requires the XP-Upgrade rather than XP-Full CD?
Windows 2000 Pro only Qualifies for Clean Install by CD boot using XP Upgrade CD.
When you received the message "you cannot upgrade from Windows 2000 to XP-Professional" where you tring to Upgrade from Within Windows or did you boot from XP full CD.
Windows 2000 Pro doesn't Qualify for Upgrade to XP Pro from XP CD boot , its been tried. (don't know if you can do a In-place Upgrade from Within Windows {insert Upgrade CD with Windows started & select "Install" > "Upgrade"} ) ----------------- Edit: I have since checked SuperSite & he uses In-Place Upgrade as his method so perhaps you should try In_Place Upgrade using XP Upgrade CD . ie: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sg_2kupgrade.asp
Message Edited by gryjhnhpe on 12-08-2003 11:57 AM
That's patently ridiculous. The Microsoft matrix clearly shows that you can upgrade Windows 2000 to Windows XP Professional. You cannot upgrade Windows 2000 to Windows XP Home. This has also been pointed out by Paul Thurrott in his SuperSite for Windows:
"It's also worth mentioning that Home Edition will support upgrades from Windows 98, 98 SE, and Millennium Edition (Me), but not from Windows 95, NT 4.0 Workstation, or Windows 2000 Professional. You can upgrade from Windows 98, 98 SE, Millennium Edition (Me), Windows NT 4.0 Workstation, or Windows 2000 Professional to Windows XP Professional. See my article on What to Expect from Windows XP for more information."
Windows 2000 Pro only Qualifies for Clean Install by CD boot using XP Upgrade CD.
You shouldn't have received the message "you cannot upgrade from Windows 2000 to XP-Professional" unless you were using an XP Upgrade CD. Suggest you check your XP CD , is it XP Full or XP Upgrade.?
Windows 2000 Pro doesn't Qualify for Upgrade to XP Home or XP Pro from XP CD boot , its been tried. **** (don't know if you can do a In-place Upgrade from Within Windows {insert Upgrade CD with Windows started & select "Install" > "Upgrade"} ) ****
I had qualified my previous Reply as above **** (.....) **** because Member has tried to Upgrade 2000 to XP Pro using boot from Upgrade CD. & doesn't work .ie:
-----------------------
tonypal22 wrote:
"I tried to upgrade to XP pro on my system running 2000 pro. It said I could not upgrade, but would install XP as well, so I let it."
http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=sw_winxp&message.id=95577&highlight=upgrade+2000+xp#M95577 ------------------
I have since checked SuperSite & I see he uses In-Place Upgrade from Within Windows as his method so perhaps it works for In-Place Upgrade but doesn't work for boot from Upgrade CD.
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sg_2kupgrade.asp ------------------
Edit:
Deleted wrong info.
Message Edited by gryjhnhpe on 12-08-2003 02:26 PM
No, they don't. The entire reason for an
UPGRADE is to upgrade from within the existing operating system. Clean installs using an upgrade CD are done by booting from the CD (in the case of XP) or by running setup using the upgrade CD for Windows 9X systems.
@Denny Denham wrote:
"(most Upgrades work from boot of Upgrade CD)"
No, they don't. The entire reason for an
UPGRADE is to upgrade from within the existing operating system. Clean installs using an upgrade CD are done by booting from the CD (in the case of XP) or by running setup using the upgrade CD for Windows 9X systems.
Thats generally true but the Poster said she got message "you cannot upgrade from Windows 2000 to XP-Professional" & said she was using a full version of XP Pro so if she booted from XP Pro CD she shouldn't have gotten message.
Full version doesn't check for Upgrade status & should have allowed Repair to have been later selected.
If she had tried to Upgrade from Within Windows it should have allowed it with Upgrade version ( as Microsoft & SuperSite says) .
I have also used Upgrade from Within on my XP Home with DELL reinstallation XP CD (not an Upgrade CD) & it allowed Upgrade & simply did a Repair.
Microsoft info says Upgrade from Within can also be done by Repair from XP CD which I have found to be true.
"How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP"
"Method 1: Reinstall Windows XP from Within Windows XP"
"Method 2: Reinstall Windows XP by Starting Your Computer from the Windows XP CD"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315341
Message Edited by gryjhnhpe on 12-08-2003 02:29 PM
Semantics has become involved. Microsoft labels a repair reinstall an "in-place upgrade." In fact, it is an upgrade of a damaged installation of XP. It is
not an upgrade in the sense that an earlier operating system is being upgraded to a newer operating system. The original poster was told that he could not upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP when he tried to do so with a full version of Windows XP.
You say, "Full version doesn't check for Upgrade status & should have allowed Repair to have been later selected." Sure it should have, assuming that Windows XP was already installed so that it could be repaired, but this assumes that the original poster had booted to the CD which of course he would not have done since he wanted to upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP.
I, the original poster, appreciate all the response (but I'm a she, not a he :-)).
It's really a semantic issue. I work for a software company so I know how these definitions can be open to interpretation - and can be changed when it suits the software publisher. I guess, if we were to be really clear, we'd use the word "migrate" for moving from an older product (or OS) to a newer one and "upgrade" for functional enhancement releases of the same product (or OS), and "update" for bug-fixes.
Anyway, I decided to just go my original route and loaded the full new XP-pro on a new HD I put in my old AMD unit. Amazing how perky the old dog has become with a fresh faster HD and XP. I love this OS (and haven't said that about MS in a long time).
jo
P.S. with all the many responses, I'm still not sure whether it's possible to get my Dell Inspiron from 2000-pro to XP-pro without losing data. Don't really care tho', XP will be worth it!
@Denny Denham wrote:
Semantics has become involved. Microsoft labels a repair reinstall an "in-place upgrade." In fact, it is an upgrade of a damaged installation of XP. It is
not an upgrade in the sense that an earlier operating system is being upgraded to a newer operating system. The original poster was told that he could not upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP when he tried to do so with a full version of Windows XP.
I get your point "In-Place Upgrade of XP" is the same routine used to Upgrade to new Windows XP OS as shown by SuperSite "Upgrade Windoows 2000 Pro to XP Pro"
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sg_2kupgrade.asp I was confusing the two as the same routine used by both.
jhb045
22 Posts
0
December 6th, 2003 13:00
Thanks Mary.. But MS says you can!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/howtobuy/upgrading/matrix.asp
I really wouldn't mind doing a clean install - have recently done it with 2000 so don't have much data to preserve. And you're right, of course, that clean is cleaner :-)
But I'm just curious as to why MS says you can. Do you think this requires the XP-Upgrade rather than XP-Full CD?
jo
Mary G
4 Operator
•
20.1K Posts
0
December 6th, 2003 13:00
Sorry--there is no upgrade path for Win 2k to XP. You have to back up your data and do a clean install. A clean install is the only way to go anyway.
Message Edited by Mary G on 12-06-2003 10:15 AM
Denny Denham
2 Intern
•
18.8K Posts
0
December 6th, 2003 15:00
You have identified the problem--you can't do an upgrade without an upgrade CD.
jhb045
22 Posts
0
December 6th, 2003 18:00
For the extra $100 (list), I would'a thought the "Full" version would also include the "upgrade.
Silly me :-)
Oh well, clean is ok.
gryjhnhpe
2 Intern
•
2K Posts
0
December 6th, 2003 20:00
You can't Upgrade from Windows 2000 Pro to XP Pro using CD boot from XP Upgrade CD either.
Its been tried , see Members Post;
http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=sw_winxp&message.id=95577&highlight=upgrade+2000+xp#M95577
Windows 2000 Pro only Qualifies for Clean Install by CD boot using XP Upgrade CD.
When you received the message "you cannot upgrade from Windows 2000 to XP-Professional" where you tring to Upgrade from Within Windows or did you boot from XP full CD.
Windows 2000 Pro doesn't Qualify for Upgrade to XP Pro from XP CD boot , its been tried.
(don't know if you can do a In-place Upgrade from Within Windows {insert Upgrade CD with Windows started & select "Install" > "Upgrade"} )
-----------------
Edit:
I have since checked SuperSite & he uses In-Place Upgrade as his method so perhaps you should try In_Place Upgrade using XP Upgrade CD . ie:
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sg_2kupgrade.asp
Message Edited by gryjhnhpe on 12-08-2003 11:57 AM
Denny Denham
2 Intern
•
18.8K Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 03:00
gryjhnhpe
2 Intern
•
2K Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 05:00
-----------------------
tonypal22 wrote:
"I tried to upgrade to XP pro on my system running 2000 pro. It said I could not upgrade, but would install XP as well, so I let it."
http://delltalk.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=sw_winxp&message.id=95577&highlight=upgrade+2000+xp#M95577
------------------
I have since checked SuperSite & I see he uses In-Place Upgrade from Within Windows as his method so perhaps it works for In-Place Upgrade but doesn't work for boot from Upgrade CD.
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sg_2kupgrade.asp
------------------
Edit:
Deleted wrong info.
Message Edited by gryjhnhpe on 12-08-2003 02:26 PM
Denny Denham
2 Intern
•
18.8K Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 14:00
No, they don't. The entire reason for an UPGRADE is to upgrade from within the existing operating system. Clean installs using an upgrade CD are done by booting from the CD (in the case of XP) or by running setup using the upgrade CD for Windows 9X systems.
gryjhnhpe
2 Intern
•
2K Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 18:00
Microsoft info says Upgrade from Within can also be done by Repair from XP CD which I have found to be true.
"How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade (Reinstallation) of Windows XP"
"Method 1: Reinstall Windows XP from Within Windows XP"
"Method 2: Reinstall Windows XP by Starting Your Computer from the Windows XP CD"
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315341
Message Edited by gryjhnhpe on 12-08-2003 02:29 PM
Denny Denham
2 Intern
•
18.8K Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 20:00
You say, "Full version doesn't check for Upgrade status & should have allowed Repair to have been later selected." Sure it should have, assuming that Windows XP was already installed so that it could be repaired, but this assumes that the original poster had booted to the CD which of course he would not have done since he wanted to upgrade from Windows 2000 to Windows XP.
jhb045
22 Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 21:00
I, the original poster, appreciate all the response (but I'm a she, not a he :-)).
It's really a semantic issue. I work for a software company so I know how these definitions can be open to interpretation - and can be changed when it suits the software publisher. I guess, if we were to be really clear, we'd use the word "migrate" for moving from an older product (or OS) to a newer one and "upgrade" for functional enhancement releases of the same product (or OS), and "update" for bug-fixes.
Anyway, I decided to just go my original route and loaded the full new XP-pro on a new HD I put in my old AMD unit. Amazing how perky the old dog has become with a fresh faster HD and XP. I love this OS (and haven't said that about MS in a long time).
jo
P.S. with all the many responses, I'm still not sure whether it's possible to get my Dell Inspiron from 2000-pro to XP-pro without losing data. Don't really care tho', XP will be worth it!
gryjhnhpe
2 Intern
•
2K Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 22:00
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_sg_2kupgrade.asp
I was confusing the two as the same routine used by both.
Denny Denham
2 Intern
•
18.8K Posts
0
December 7th, 2003 22:00
With regard to your postscript, yes you can but I'm pleased to see that you won't.
Apologies for the gender misidentification.