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February 16th, 2007 15:00

Vista Business and an NT4 domain

I have been trying to connect my new Vista Business Dell on our older NT4 domain with no success.
I spent 2 hours with Microsoft, got no answers.
I know NT4 is dead but I cannot switch yet.
Any ideas ?
Vista keeps telling me it can't find "active directory", which is true, there is no active directory
thanks
 


Message Edited by barrymf on 02-16-2007 11:54 AM

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February 16th, 2007 15:00

I tried the "normal" method like XP pro...no go
I also tried the Wizard with the same failure ?
I also have added the Vista computer to my NT domain server manually
no go
thanks
 

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February 16th, 2007 15:00

I seem to recall that when using one of the beta's, what I had to do is to change to the 'classic' control panel interface, then go into control panel, into 'system', and then proceed to join the domain the same way you do in XP.
 

February 17th, 2007 10:00

NT4 domains use WINS instead of DNS, if I remember correctly (the last time I used one was about 5 years ago!), and I'm not sure Vista was written to be compatible with that type of domain.
 
If someone has successfully connected Vista to an NT4 domain, I'd be curious to see how it was done!

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February 17th, 2007 11:00

Guessing a little here....
 
Is it that Vista has Kerberos trust and log-in capabilities; while the NT4 systems are expecting an NTLM (LanManager) capable device? If that is the issue, then you may need to change the login control system to use something different.
 

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February 17th, 2007 14:00

During the Vista beta's ( I don't have a final copy yet) I did it a couple of times with no real problem, in fact one of my systems is set as a dual-boot system and I use it at work on our NT 4.0 domain with no problem..
 
It's been a while since I installed and connected, but to the best of my memory, all I had to do is to change the Control Panel to use the classic view, then go to the Control Panel, go to System, then go to the tab where you can chage the name, etc, and click on the usual button to change the workgroup name or join a domain.
 
It wasn't difficult at all.
 
Note: this was done using Vista Ultimate beta. perhaps something changed in the later RTM builds.
 
 I believe that you'll need Vista Business or Vista Ultimate or Vista Enterprise to be able to join network domains.
 
By the way, yes our NT domain uses both WINS and DNS.
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