Since there is no dhcp server on your network, there is nothing to assign an IP address. Have you tried assigning a local static IP address to both computers. They should be in the range 192.168.1.xxx, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
Since there is no dhcp server on your network, there is nothing to assign an IP address. Have you tried assigning a local static IP address to both computers. They should be in the range 192.168.1.xxx, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
The major problem with running the Network Setup Wizard is that if you answer one question wrong, the network won't work. Thus, you should learn to setup the network manually. Try the tutorial at www.homenethelp.com and if you have specific questions, post back here.
The major problem with running the Network Setup Wizard is that if you answer one question wrong, the network won't work. Thus, you should learn to setup the network manually. Try the tutorial at www.homenethelp.com and if you have specific questions, post back here.
Steve
Thank you. I ran the tutorial and found a couple of needed changes for my Windows 98 desktop. Everything that's being shared is appearing in their respective Network Neighborhood or My Network Places windows. However, there is still no connectivity in the Local Area Connection, and the repairs wizard is saying the same thing is wrong: i.e., it can't renew my IP address. I am on dial-up, and I do not need, nor have I activated internet sharing capability. I will try your first idea of using a static IP address. Do I make up the last 3 (xxx) digits of the number you susggest (192.168.1 xxx, submask 255.255.255.0) or do I get a specific number from somewhere? Anything else I should do afterwards?
The major problem with running the Network Setup Wizard is that if you answer one question wrong, the network won't work. Thus, you should learn to setup the network manually. Try the tutorial at www.homenethelp.com and if you have specific questions, post back here.
Steve
Also, in the tutorial, I did not run into any opportunity to insert a static IP address for the Windows 98 Desktop. Do I need to do that on that computer, and if so how can I access the opportunity? Tks
The major problem with running the Network Setup Wizard is that if you answer one question wrong, the network won't work. Thus, you should learn to setup the network manually. Try the tutorial at www.homenethelp.com and if you have specific questions, post back here.
Steve
P.P.S. I have ZoneAlarm on both computers. The Ethernet connection is in the trusted zone on both, and the IP address/sites are listed. Should I use those as the static addresses (I still don't know where to insert that on the desktop)? (I have tried turning ZoneAlarm on and off, and it doesn't make a difference to the problem.)
You need to assign each computer a different IP address in the range 192.168.1.xxx. So, for example, one computer could be 192.168.1.1 and the other one could be 192.168.1.2.
In Windows 98, right click on Network Neighborhood, select Properties form the drop down menu. Find the TCP/IP protocal in the list, select it, click on Properties and enter the static IP address there along with the subnet mask 255.255.255.0
You need to assign each computer a different IP address in the range 192.168.1.xxx. So, for example, one computer could be 192.168.1.1 and the other one could be 192.168.1.2.
In Windows 98, right click on Network Neighborhood, select Properties form the drop down menu. Find the TCP/IP protocal in the list, select it, click on Properties and enter the static IP address there along with the subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Steve
Thanks. On the Windows 98 desktop I have two TCP/Ip protocols listed: one for the Ethernet and one for the Dial-up Adapter. Which should I give a static IP address to?
The ethernet connection is the one to assign a static IP address. The dialup connection gets its IP address from your ISP when you dial in.
Steve
Bingo! After numerous re-boots and unplugging and plugging of wires, it works! Many, many thanks for your patience, clarity, knowledge, experience and instructions with explanations.
While I agree that everyone with a broadband connection should have router, it is difficult to employ a router with a dialup connection. It can be done, but the router has to run in Access Point Mode and not act as a dhcp server.
It's been a long time since I used either Zone Alarm or dialup networking, so I can't be of much help. I am sure there is a way to get Zone Alarm to work with File and Printer sharing. Have you tried giving it a range of IP addresses in the trusted zone instead of single IP addresses?
As for the Ad-Aware update, did you try connecting to the internet before trying to check for and download updates?
Steve
I agree that Ad-Aware wants you online.
And the ZA suggestion is a good one.
However, this exercise seems to be a big waste of time since a router cost about $10 or less after rebates. It handles everything. No static addresses, no issues w. Windows 98.
The ethernet connection is the one to assign a static IP address. The dialup connection gets its IP address from your ISP when you dial in.
Steve
Oops. Spoke too fast. The network is working fine as long as I shut down ZoneAlarm (free edition) on both computers. If I don't, I still have connectivity, but the shared resources won't open on either computer. Both cards (with their static IP addresses) show up in the "Zones" tab. (I'm assuming that's the Trusted Zone). Any ideas on how to fix this? It's not the end of the world to have to always turn ZoneAlarm back on before I go on the internet.
Also, I downloaded Lavasoft's Ad-Aware personal edition (free) onto the new laptop. The installation went fine, but when I try to update the definition file, it immediately says "error retrieving updates." There's no indication it has tried to get on the internet before showing that message. The Help file mentions Proxy Settings. I can find where to change those if necesssary but don't know to what. There's an HTTP button for turning on/off the Proxy settings, and bars for entering an IP address and Port for the Proxy. Any idea what I should do about this?
While I agree that everyone with a broadband connection should have router, it is difficult to employ a router with a dialup connection. It can be done, but the router has to run in Access Point Mode and not act as a dhcp server.
Steve
Even if you're not using ICS as he isn't? Sounded like the dialup was on one machine only, or on both but not shared. So why would the router intefere?
It's been a long time since I used either Zone Alarm or dialup networking, so I can't be of much help. I am sure there is a way to get Zone Alarm to work with File and Printer sharing. Have you tried giving it a range of IP addresses in the trusted zone instead of single IP addresses?
As for the Ad-Aware update, did you try connecting to the internet before trying to check for and download updates?
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Since there is no dhcp server on your network, there is nothing to assign an IP address. Have you tried assigning a local static IP address to both computers. They should be in the range 192.168.1.xxx, with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
Steve
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May 2nd, 2005 12:00
I haven't tried that yet. How do I do it? Thanks
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The major problem with running the Network Setup Wizard is that if you answer one question wrong, the network won't work. Thus, you should learn to setup the network manually. Try the tutorial at www.homenethelp.com and if you have specific questions, post back here.
Steve
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May 3rd, 2005 19:00
Thank you. I ran the tutorial and found a couple of needed changes for my Windows 98 desktop. Everything that's being shared is appearing in their respective Network Neighborhood or My Network Places windows. However, there is still no connectivity in the Local Area Connection, and the repairs wizard is saying the same thing is wrong: i.e., it can't renew my IP address. I am on dial-up, and I do not need, nor have I activated internet sharing capability. I will try your first idea of using a static IP address. Do I make up the last 3 (xxx) digits of the number you susggest (192.168.1 xxx, submask 255.255.255.0) or do I get a specific number from somewhere? Anything else I should do afterwards?
Thanks again.
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May 3rd, 2005 19:00
Also, in the tutorial, I did not run into any opportunity to insert a static IP address for the Windows 98 Desktop. Do I need to do that on that computer, and if so how can I access the opportunity? Tks
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P.P.S. I have ZoneAlarm on both computers. The Ethernet connection is in the trusted zone on both, and the IP address/sites are listed. Should I use those as the static addresses (I still don't know where to insert that on the desktop)? (I have tried turning ZoneAlarm on and off, and it doesn't make a difference to the problem.)
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May 4th, 2005 13:00
You need to assign each computer a different IP address in the range 192.168.1.xxx. So, for example, one computer could be 192.168.1.1 and the other one could be 192.168.1.2.
In Windows 98, right click on Network Neighborhood, select Properties form the drop down menu. Find the TCP/IP protocal in the list, select it, click on Properties and enter the static IP address there along with the subnet mask 255.255.255.0
Steve
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May 4th, 2005 14:00
Thanks. On the Windows 98 desktop I have two TCP/Ip protocols listed: one for the Ethernet and one for the Dial-up Adapter. Which should I give a static IP address to?
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May 4th, 2005 14:00
The ethernet connection is the one to assign a static IP address. The dialup connection gets its IP address from your ISP when you dial in.
Steve
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May 5th, 2005 16:00
Bingo! After numerous re-boots and unplugging and plugging of wires, it works! Many, many thanks for your patience, clarity, knowledge, experience and instructions with explanations.
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Rick,
While I agree that everyone with a broadband connection should have router, it is difficult to employ a router with a dialup connection. It can be done, but the router has to run in Access Point Mode and not act as a dhcp server.
Steve
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Oops. Spoke too fast. The network is working fine as long as I shut down ZoneAlarm (free edition) on both computers. If I don't, I still have connectivity, but the shared resources won't open on either computer. Both cards (with their static IP addresses) show up in the "Zones" tab. (I'm assuming that's the Trusted Zone). Any ideas on how to fix this? It's not the end of the world to have to always turn ZoneAlarm back on before I go on the internet.
Also, I downloaded Lavasoft's Ad-Aware personal edition (free) onto the new laptop. The installation went fine, but when I try to update the definition file, it immediately says "error retrieving updates." There's no indication it has tried to get on the internet before showing that message. The Help file mentions Proxy Settings. I can find where to change those if necesssary but don't know to what. There's an HTTP button for turning on/off the Proxy settings, and bars for entering an IP address and Port for the Proxy. Any idea what I should do about this?
Thanks again.
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It's been a long time since I used either Zone Alarm or dialup networking, so I can't be of much help. I am sure there is a way to get Zone Alarm to work with File and Printer sharing. Have you tried giving it a range of IP addresses in the trusted zone instead of single IP addresses?
As for the Ad-Aware update, did you try connecting to the internet before trying to check for and download updates?
Steve