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farmer70acre

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April 13th, 2005 14:00

norton ghost 2003??

I was going to purchase this to make an image of my drive but I read that it can not back up my disk to a USB drive ?? I have an external USB harddrive and I want something that I can use to do a drive image so if I have problems i don't have to reninstall the whole system.
Is there anything out there that is easy to use and dependable that I can use with USB1??
Thanks

farmer70acre

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April 13th, 2005 15:00

But I was reading about this also and sooo many people are having problems with the 9.0. Not reading the disk, error messages, messing up their system, not restoring the image, image browser crashing, "NTLDR is Missing" error, deleted the drivers for optical drives,  one wouldn't allow them to use cdr drive until they uninstalled nortonghost 9, and I know from experience their tech support stinks most of the time. Is there a good alternative or has symantec bought them all out?

Mary G

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April 13th, 2005 15:00

The new version Norton Ghost 9.0 can. http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/features.html 
BTW- Ghost 2003 is not for Win XP! It's for ME, 98 etc. You don't want that version anyway since you have XP.

Message Edited by Mary G on 04-13-2005 12:04 PM

simpswr

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April 13th, 2005 17:00

FWIW . . I am using Ghost 2003 on several  XP machines and it works fine . . and it will put the image on a usb external drive.  2003 seems not to have some of the issues that v. 9 is

wrs

maxd

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April 13th, 2005 18:00

This link affirms XP- and USB compatibility; not that simpswr would kid you.

http://ghost.radified.com/

msil217

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April 13th, 2005 19:00

Ghost 2003 not for XP??????

simpswr

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April 13th, 2005 19:00

That is a really good guide to Ghost . . thanks . .
 
moi would kid? ? ?
 
wrs

VBdotNet

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April 14th, 2005 01:00


@msil217 wrote:
Ghost 2003 not for XP??????


I use it on XP SP1 and SP2.

JersWork

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April 14th, 2005 01:00

As others have told you,  Ghost 2003 will work for you.  You will have to boot to DOS to use it,  but it will work.

As for other software,  I personally like Acronis True Image (v8 is the current).  It runs under Windows (and will even image your Windows partition while in Windows).  True Image also supports the concept of "incremental" backups so that you make a full image,  then much smaller (and quicker) incrementals such that you can restore the drive to the state at the time any of the incrementals was taken.  One last thing,  which I have not used yet is scheduled imaging,  so that it can be configured to run on a re-occuring schedule.

I have restored Ghost and True Image images into several different notebooks,  including Dells and IBM ThinkPads.

Ratz

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April 14th, 2005 01:00

farmer70acre

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April 14th, 2005 17:00

how to boot to dos with xp?? my floppy drive gives me fits alot. I don't use it anymore because more than half the time it won't read the floppies! so how would I do this without a floppy?
Thanks

GreyMack

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April 14th, 2005 18:00

System restoration with Ghost 2003 is oriented to the use of a floppy in the event of a catastrophic failure in which the virtual partition and recovery console cannot be launched from the operating system. A reliable floppy drive may be the best solution for using Ghost 2003 - particularly in a situation when you most need the ability to restore your system. A replacement floppy drive may be the cheapest and most effective solution, if the problem is actually in the drive.

It may be possible to create a bootable CD to launch the Ghost 2003 recovery console, but I don't know for sure. It is not a built-in feature of Ghost 2003 and I don't know what all would be necessary to create a bootable CD from an image of the bootable floppy.
 
 
GM

VBdotNet

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April 14th, 2005 20:00


@GreyMack wrote:
It may be possible to create a bootable CD to launch the Ghost 2003 recovery console, but I don't know for sure. It is not a built-in feature of Ghost 2003 and I don't know what all would be necessary to create a bootable CD from an image of the bootable floppy.
 
 
GM

I have a PNY 128MB memory stick that I made bootable with "The Dell USB Memory Key" utility found at Bay Wolf's site ( I believe Dell is now including a utility on its download pages). Note: some 256MB and bigger sticks cannot format as bootable sticks or must be formatted using the vendor's specific utility.  On my stick I have the following:
 
File list in root folder of the memory stick:
AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS
GHOST.EXE   (MS-DOS version)
KERNEL.SYS
MOUSE.COM
mscdex.exe
oakcdrom.sys
[end of list]
 
Contents of Autoexec.bat and Config.sys:
 
Autoexec.bat:
 
@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+05:00
MOUSE.COM /Z
LH \MSCDEX.EXE /D:cd1
GHOST.EXE
 
Config.sys:
 
DEVICE = oakcdrom.sys /D:cd1
LASTDRIVE = Z
 
Using TCP Peer-to-Peer, I Ghost my machine to another machine and use Nero 6 to burn DVDs of the Ghost image files. I use Nero to make the 1st DVD bootable and tell it to use the boot image from the memory stick - which its recognizes as a bootable drive.
 
Now when I need to restore, I place the first DVD in the drive and boot to DOS from it and run Ghost - it works perfectly for me.

GreyMack

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April 15th, 2005 20:00

Thanks VB.net, that will be handy when I get around to working on a bootable Ghost.exe CD!

GM

markcj

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April 16th, 2005 14:00

Having been a Ghost user, and before that a PowerQuest Drive Image user going back to v3, I switched to Acronis True Image last year. I find it easier to use (I bought my Mom a copy for her PC, and it's straightforward enough for her to use it) and I've had far fewer problems (read: none) than I did with Ghost. I don't work for Acronis or anything, I just happened to be browsing the forums today to seek a solution for my 4700, saw this thread, and thought I'd recommend a solid product. I think the web site is www.acronis.com.

zergkiller

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April 16th, 2005 20:00

Hi.
 
I haven't been able to find any information on my question, but it seems that you people have a good discussion on Ghost, a program I have used for years.
 
I was able to buy a copy of Norton Systemworks Pro with Ghost 2003 included, and upgrade my anti-virus software subscription too, for about $6 on dirtcheap software about three months ago.
 
I wrote this (below) instruction on making a bootable CD for a laptop, so that you can use the backup scheme I use.  I only back up my C drive, since it's the OS that goes bad, and makes you have to rebuild your hard drive and lose everything.  But without Ghost I feel so inadequate and alone.  sniffle
 
 
Just before Christmas, I got this neat XPS Gen 3 thing.  Thinking I was smart and staying ahead of the curve, I got two drives hooked together in a RAID 1 array.  Well, Ghost won't work with RAID 1.  I found that out later, of course.
 
As of this moment, my wonderful XP 2 OS seems to be broken.  System restore won't restore, and I've tried all manner of cute tricks to fix it, so, at least at the moment, it looks like I have to rebuild my hard drive.  Well, I've never trusted this computer from the beginning, since I've had so much trouble with the hardware, so there are only programs loaded and I won't lose much besides my temper.
 
And that brings me to the point of all this.  To RAID or not to RAID?  I'm thinking "not".  I mean, since when do hard drives blow up with no warning?  It can happen, but the odds of software messing up are far greater.  So, to me, the protection against hardware failure through the RAID redundancy is negligible.
 
If Ghost worked with RAID, I'd feel invincible.  But I'm thinking I should "break the mirror". (That's RAID talk.)  tee hee!
 
Does anyone here know how to do this? 
 
I think the pattern goes something like this:  Change the bios, unplug the second drive, reboot, plug the drive back in and reformat it with XP2 or in my case Partition Magic.  I don't know how to change the bios, and I'm really wondering about all of the permutations to my system.
 
I'd appreciate any guidance.  I'd post this to another thread if I thought it misplaced here or innapropriate.  I couldn't find any information on this for a PC.
 
zergkiller
 

Dell XPS Series Gen 3 Pentium 4 Processor 560 3.6 GHz w/HT
1 GB DDR@ SDRAM at 533 MHz
256 MB Nvidea GeForce 6800 GTO Graphics Card
Serial ATA RAID 1 with Dual 160GB hard drives (Which don’t let me use Ghost!  Boo.)
Sound Blaster Audigy 2 THX
Dell 5650 5.1 Surround Sound with Subwoofer

19 inch E193FP Flat Panel Display

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