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February 28th, 2018 06:00

XPS 13 9370 Killer WiFi issues

New XPS 13 9370 with the same issues reported widely with previous versions of the XPS 13 with Killer WiFi card namely very slow internet speeds at times and regular cut-outs.

I've done all the recommended actions such as removing & reinstalling the latest KIller WiFi suite/drivers, ensuring Windows is up to date and updating to latest BIOS but the issues still persist.

No other wireless devices connected to my router (BT Hub 5) have any problems & I have a wired speed of up to 75Mbps, wireless speeds on other devices are generally between 50 - 70 Mbps. The XPS when it chooses to work correctly will achieve similar speeds but often, as per the last two days, struggles to get above 5 - 15 Mbps and cuts out completely at times too.

Killer's site provides little help, blaming problems on your router! The only real ie successful solution I've read about is replacing the Killer card with an Intel one so why on earth to Dell persist in using the Killer Wifi card which is clearly not fit for purpose?

I'm currently awaiting a replacement unit from Dell who hope this will fix the WiFi issue, I rather doubt it but hope to be proven wrong.

 

Apart from the WiFi issue i really like my XPS13 but ultimately may have to return it for a refund; after all what's the point of a flagship ultra-portable laptop that cannot connect reliably to the internet?

Dell should be offering customers with the faulty Killer Wifi cards the option of sending the unit in to have an Intel card fitted instead.

 

 

 

 

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October 13th, 2018 02:00

This solution worked. Now my internet speed is faster than my intel 7260 in other computers. Previously my killer 1435 on Dell XPS 9370 was only 30% to 50% of much older intel 7260 network adapter. After trying out lot of other troubleshooting nothing worked. After 1803 update and uninstalling Killer software as mentioned in step 3 worked flawlessly. There is something wrong with the killer driver shipped with Dell XPS. THanks very much. 

October 19th, 2018 07:00

I booted Linux to discover the WiFi card was based on the Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 chip. Google located the Windows 10 driver for this chip on the Lenovo support site. Un-install the Killer driver and install the one from Qualcomm . A 10 hour file transfer now completes in 10 minutes! Success! Dell and Killer both fail!

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December 17th, 2018 20:00

I've had an XPS 13 9370 for maybe six months?

The WiFi used to drop out CONSTANTLY, but with some hacks it's a bit better. But still drops out on average about seven times a week. It's very frustrating.

My symptoms are: Wifi shows connected with high strength, but a simple ping to the IP of my router will fail.

Fixes I've tried:

  • use recent BIOS
  • use driver-only version of latest killer wireless drivers direct from their site
  • adjust power-saving on wireless card via registry hacks

Swapping into aeroplane mode and back will reconnect, then things work again.

 

Have there been any improvements to the situation?

I'll see if I can locate that generic Qualcomm Atheros driver mentioned, but really.. I shouldn't have to be going to these lengths for a premium laptop.

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January 7th, 2019 04:00

Which port did you swap from, and to?

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January 7th, 2019 04:00

Switching the connected (via dell 4in1 adapter) monitor to the other USB port did the trick for me. I also have a 4k monitor via the thunderbolt port. 

Needless to say that I've tried everything else for the last 4 days. Something with power or the position of the USB? I cant really imagine. I figured out this because the wifi was working fine everywhere else except when in my office where I have this multi monitor setup. 

So if you have anything connected, try to switch ports or remove it and check what's happening

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January 11th, 2019 15:00

@Anonymous is it even possible to get a hold of you to give us some answers. I still have the issue everywhere I go, even after the motherboard replacement (it was replaced for a refurbished one, so probably had the same issue). Dell should really start recalling these laptops as you cannot swap the wifi card itself... I have spent alot of time trying to make it work, but this is just terrible.

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February 9th, 2019 21:00

Hi.  I've been having similar problems but have a brand-new XPS 13 9380.  I followed your steps (Thanks !).  Downloaded the killer uninstaller.  Ran it.  Rebooted it.  Then ran Windows Update.  When I look in the network adaptor list in Device Manager, it still shows "Killer Wireless - n/a/ac 1435 Wireless Network Adapter".  When I right-click on that Adaptor, it shows the Driver Provider as "Qualcomm Atheros Communication, Inc" with a driver-date of 1/2/2019 and a Driver Version of 12.0.0.820.  Did I do something wrong as, per your instructions, I was expecting to see some sort of "Microsoft" adapter ?  I'm extremely disheartened with this supposedly top-of-the-line XPS 13.  Been having constant Wifi drops every few minutes.  They only last for a few seconds but this machine should be rock-solid.  Made sure everything else (BIOS, Windows Update) are all current.  Any advice would be deeply appreciated !  Thanks...

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February 10th, 2019 02:00

Hi

It's because you ran Windows update after rebooting (step 5) where it downloaded and installed the Atheros driver. They released version 12.0.0.820 just a few days ago so it's the latest driver you got on your laptop. There's no point reverting back to Microsoft driver because everytime you run Windows update it'll download the 820 again and it is actually the driver it should have. 

I haven't tried using 820 driver long enough but so far I don't have dropouts. I suggest you can try to go to Device Manager again and click on the wifi card, then right click and select Uninstall device. Wait a moment while it uninstalls. Then right click again anywhere and select Scan for hardware changes. It will reinstall the card back to the system while resetting the SSID so you'll have to register again to your wifi network, make sure you know your password for the wifi. It should address your issue, but if not then you'll have to wait for the next driver update. I'm not an expert but I believe this is just a software/driver glitch especially when Win 10 isn't perfect either now so I'd suggest to wait for future software/driver updates instead of sending the unit to the service center to have hardware fix. I hope it isn't hardware issue as I don't like my laptop opened.

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February 10th, 2019 06:00

Thanks for the feedback.  I've given that a shot but it's still sporadically dropping for a second at a time every few minutes.  Also selected the driver to optimally select to my 5G network as it's preference rather than the "No Preference" option where it'll pick between the 2.4 & 5 Ghz.  Will give it a shot and see if drops continue.  Very disheartened as this should be a state-of-the-art machine.....

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February 10th, 2019 09:00

I'd try switching the wifi router to 2.4GHz just to see if it solves the problem. I've had issues in the past with router-device compatibility in 5GHz setup.

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February 15th, 2019 06:00



@Omnibussi wrote:

 

...So this is what I have tried. Although the speed occasionally drops but quite ok until they release new update. Part of the methods were suggested by a previous poster on here,

1) Update your windows 10 to latest version. (I use Windows 10 1809)

2) Update to latest bios (as of 9 Feb 2019 latest is 1.6.3)
https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/xps-13-9370-laptop/drivers

3) Now Uninstall your Killer Wifi Network drivers using the killer uninstaller program. I strongly advise uninstalling using this because it also deletes all unnecessary registry automatically for cleaner uninstallation.
https://www.killernetworking.com/support/KillerSoftwareUninstaller.exe
Restart your PC

4) Do NOT install any software from Killer again. After reboot the wifi card will be running on Windows driver (you can check from Device Manager from Control Panel under Network Adapters on DRIVER tab that the driver provider is Microsoft. Actually the wifi card works fine now if you want to stay here a bit longer to test. You can go step 5 anytime. 

5) Now run Windows Update! It will update the wifi card driver to Atheros Communication driver downloaded from Windows update. After installation you can check again that the driver provider now is Qualcomm Atheros Comm Inc. So now the wifi card is managed by Windows but using recognized Atheros driver.

Good luck.

Update: Wifi card driver version on step 5 is 12.0.0.720. You can download from below link to update to 12.0.0.820. This is driver only installation without any Killer software. https://www.killernetworking.com/killersupport/item/killer-drivers-64bit


@Omnibussi 

Thank you for these instructions.  I will have to try this solution when I get home tonight. I have the xps 13 9370 with the Killer 1435 card and have been experiencing intermittent wifi dropouts.  

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February 15th, 2019 16:00

hmm, I guess the driver is not what is causing my wifi dropping issue.  I think I have the correct driver:

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February 16th, 2019 09:00

I had to return a 9360 because the wifi connected at 25% of other devices sitting next the the laptop. I was thinking about buying a 9380. While it is possible to substitute an Intel wifi/bluetooth card on the 9360, it is not replaceable on the 9370 or 9380. I ended up buying a MacBook Air which works fine, including its wifi.

I recommend your return the 9380.  Otherwise you will likely not get this fixed.

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February 20th, 2019 17:00

My 9370-13 with Killer wifi card 1435 still has poor performance on speed and frequent disconnects with the router especially after resuming from sleep/hibernation. If it's rebooted the wifi connection with the router is relatively stable though. I hope they fix this soon as the product has been in the market for quite some time. BIOS: 1.6.3 Win 10 1809 update Killer driver only ver. 12.0.0.820 No Killer software

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February 21st, 2019 04:00

Omnibussi,

Change the settings below for resolving the wifi disconnects.

Step 1: Change the power management 
1) Right-click your WiFi icon at the bottom right corner of your PC desktop and click Open Network and Sharing Center.

2) Click Change adapter settings

3) Right-click your WiFi adapter and click Properties

4) Click Configure

5) Go to the Power Management tab. Untick the box for Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power. Click OK

 

Step 2: Reset the Wi-Fi AutoConfig service
1) On your keyboard, press the Windows logo key and R at the same time. Type services.msc and press Enter.

2) Highlight WLAN AutoConfig. Double-click it. 

3) Change the Startup type to Automatic

4) Click Apply and OK to save and exit. 

 

For my notes, click my username and send me the pc service tag number via private message.

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