@sunnybabu I'm not sure why you would want to use a dual PC docking station and a different docking station (WD19TB) at the same time. I also don't really recommend that docking station since it uses "indirect display" technology called DisplayLink -- not to be confused with DisplayPort. DisplayLink has a lot of disadvantages that I wrote about in the post marked as the answer in this thread. But honestly I'm not even sure what you're trying to do anymore. First you asked about adding a USB-C port to your XPS 13, which wasn't possible. Then you asked a bunch of questions about new laptops, which is when you said "last question". THEN after I suggested an MST hub as a way to run multiple displays from your current laptop, you asked me a question about an audio issue you had. And now even though it sounds like you bought the MST hub to run multiple displays, it sounds like you're still looking at a docking station? And for some reason you're looking at a dual system docking station, even though it sounds like you only have one system, AND you want to know if you can somehow use that docking station and a WD19TB at the same time, and presumably also your new MST hub at the same time?
This just doesn't make any sense to me anymore. The idea of the MST hub was to get that instead of a dock, since your XPS 13 9343 doesn't support a full docking station, but the MST hub would let you use multiple displays with that system. So I don't really understand why you bought the MST hub if you're now still thinking about a dock. And the StarTech docking station you found has the drawbacks related to DisplayLink, which has the problems I described in the thread. It also won't charge your system, which is why I don't consider it a full docking station. And I also don't know why you would want to use that dock and the WD19TB simultaneously -- but that's because like I already said, at this point I don't even understand what you are still trying to achieve. I thought the goal here was to help you run multiple displays from your laptop. You can now do that with the MST hub. I don't understand why the WD19TB is now involved in this discussion, or what you hope to achieve with the StarTech dual system dock, or why you're asking about how to use them simultaneously.
@sunnybabu Ok, that helps. Unfortunately you don't have a great solution here, but you might be able to improve it somewhat. First, the dual PC docking station doesn't appear to support triple displays, even if DisplayLink's drawbacks were acceptable to you, so I don't think that would help much. And your XPS 13 9343 doesn't support a full docking station for easy swapping with another system. And even if you were willing to spend money on a KVM to connect your XPS 13 to one input bank of the KVM and your WD19TB to the other bank in order to swap displays and peripherals back and forth by pushing a button, the KVM models that support triple displays are rare and pretty expensive. Even the ones that support high resolution dual displays are fairly expensive.
The ideal would be to replace your XPS 13 9343 with a system that can connect to the WD19TB, if that's what you're already using for your other laptop. But if you can't do that, then one setup you COULD try is this:
Get a male DisplayPort to female Mini-DisplayPort adapter that would allow you to connect the MST hub to the DisplayPort output of the WD19TB -- here is one example. I think the WD19TB can work with an external MST hub, but I'm not 100% sure on this. But if it does, you would at least be able to move all three of your displays back and forth quickly between the XPS 13 and the WD19TB since you can now just move the MST hub connection between those two devices rather than having to move three individual display cables (or switch inputs on the displays if you've got the displays connected to both the MST hub and the WD19TB).
Get a USB 3.0 hub and connect any devices you want to be able to switch back and forth between systems, like your keyboard and mouse, to the hub. When you want to use those devices with the system connected to the WD19TB, connect the hub cable to the WD19TB. When you want to use those devices with the XPS, connect the hub cable to the XPS. If you want to make it even simpler, you can get a USB host switch like this one. It can be connected to two separate host devices simultaneously and then you just have to push a button to choose which host can see the peripherals at any given time, so you wouldn't have to move a cable back and forth.
If the MST hub actually works through the WD19TB -- which again I'm not 100% sure about -- the solution above is probably the easiest way to switch your displays and USB devices between the WD19TB and your XPS. Good luck.
@jphughan Yes I’m thinking to upgrade my laptop to new XPS13 with usbc And the other one is also Dell latitude with usbc, so both can be connected to the same WD19 simultaneously is it ?
@sunnybabu No, you cannot have multiple systems connected to the WD19 dock models simultaneously. Having a newer system would just allow you to use that dock with your newer system, but you would have to use your systems one at a time. I have not seen any type of adapter or switch device that allows you to connect multiple systems to the same USB-C/Thunderbolt dock and toggle between them as needed. You have to physically move the dock cable from one system to the other as needed.
@sunnybabu Those are just 1080p 144 Hz displays. For some reason I thought you were looking at 1440p 144 Hz displays. I personally would not recommend a 27" 1080p display. Having only 1080p resolution spread out over a 27" display creates a very low pixel density (81 pixels per inch, or ppi), which can make text look grainy. Windows itself was designed around a "reference" display standard of 96 pixels per inch, just for reference. The main reason to use 27" 1080p displays is with relatively low-end gaming systems. The reason is that you get a fairly large display, but maintaining the lower resolution keeps your GPU performance requirements lower. Of course you could run a higher-resolution display at a lower resolution and achieve the same result, but higher-resolution displays cost more, and running displays below their native resolution can cause scaling artifacts. But if you're using an XPS 13, I'm guessing you're not planning to do a whole lot of serious gaming. If you plan to use these displays for productivity, or really anything that involves text, I would strongly recommend that you either use 24" 1080p displays (94 ppi) or 27" 1440p displays (108 ppi). Both of those will give you noticeably crisper text.
But if you really want to get one of those displays, the main differences seem to be that the S2721HS is flat and only supports AMD FreeSync, whereas the S2721HGF is curved and supports both FreeSync and NVIDIA G-Sync. But I personally don't see the point of a curve on a regular 27" 16:9 display, and the XPS 13 won't be able to use G-Sync or FreeSync, so that doesn't make a difference. In terms of which would work better, I would expect them to work exactly the same, and I'd recommend connecting both of them to the DisplayPort outputs of the dock.
If you decide to consider other displays based on my advice earlier, I don't personally have experience working with 144 Hz displays and I haven't personally confirmed that the Intel Xe GPU supports 144 Hz at ANY resolution. I know it can do 120 Hz, but I'm not sure about 144 Hz. However, looking purely at bandwidth requirements, dual 1080p 144 Hz is easily achievable through a Thunderbolt 3 dock from that system. If you want to look at dual 1440p 144 Hz, I think that is slightly above what is achievable through a WD19TB from an HBR3 system like the XPS 13 9310, based on a conversation I had with another user here after they tried it, but that same user confirmed that he WAS able to run dual 1440p at 120 Hz, if that would be acceptable to you. And a 144 Hz display can certainly be run at 120 Hz. (Ironically a Thunderbolt HBR2 system was able to run dual 1440p 144 Hz through a WD19TB, but the reason that was possible even though it wasn't possible through an HBR3 system is a bit complicated because it involves how DisplayPort HBR lanes work and how the WD19TB allocates them, so I don't really want to get into that.)
So i bought a new 11th gen XPS 13 with i7 and going to use my dell dock WD19TB connected to the following 2 monitors. Can you please advise if 2 of these 144hz monitors can be served up by WD19
@jphughan Thank you sir. My requirements are that I need to visualize quite a few charts at 1minute interval real-time data and different colors etc., so screen real estate is a concern, hence was thinking for 27 as opposed to 24 inches. So based on your input you are ok with this S2721HS Compared to curved or is there any better one ?
@sunnybabu If real estate is the concern, then you can't just increase screen size. A 24" 1080p display will show the same content as a 27" 1080p display. The 27" will just make it larger. So yes a 1440p display is a good idea, but the display you linked is a 4K display. With that display you will very likely need to enable scaling to keep things a reasonable size, because a 27" 4K display has a pixel density of 163 ppi. Is there any particular reason you are looking at Dell's S Series of displays? Those are meant for gaming, and therefore they have features that are relevant to gaming, like G-Sync/FreeSync and things. But if you're just looking at data, you are paying for features you don't need and probably missing out on other features that might actually be useful to you. Look at Dell's P Series and U Series displays. Those are the product lines meant for businesses and therefore they have features such as height-adjustable stands, USB ports to connect peripherals, daisy chaining support, etc. For example, you could get a U2722DE, which is a 27" 1440p display with a USB-C input that could be used with an XPS 13 9310. It essentially has a built-in docking station, even including built-in Ethernet. And if you wanted a second display, you could get a U2722D (not DE), which is essentially the same display without the USB-C input and Ethernet port, since you don't need that on both displays. And then you could daisy chain the U2722D to the U2722DE, so you would still only need a single USB-C cable to connect your XPS 13 9310 to the U2722DE, and that cable would be able to run BOTH displays, and carry power to the XPS, and carry USB data to use the USB ports built into the display.
@jphughan @You are right, not for gaming just business and all that I need is what u stated adjustable stand + display port and stuff like that. I do already have Dell dock WD19, so just need two 27” monitors. U2722D seem bit over budget for me, also since I already have dock I guess I can save some dollars by going bit lower around like in $250’s. Any recommendations please.
@jphughan Thank you sir. My requirements are that I need to visualize quite a few charts at 1minute interval real-time data and different colors etc., so screen real estate is a concern, hence was thinking for 27 as opposed to 24 inches. So based on your input to go for 27" 1440p displays compared to S2721HS does the below sounds reasonable, as I sit at least 8 hrs constantly staring at screen, I wanted something that reduces eye strain as well
@sunnybabu You may want to take a look at Dell's own store. Here is a link to their recent 27" 1440p displays in the P and U Series lines. Even if some of these are no longer available through Dell, you might find them available through other sellers. And yes if you've already got a dock, then you don't need a display with built-in USB-C.
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@jphughan Sorry for the confusion. I have 2 jobs with 2 company laptops and I have 3 monitors that I wanted to use interchangeably.
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@sunnybabu I'm not sure why you would want to use a dual PC docking station and a different docking station (WD19TB) at the same time. I also don't really recommend that docking station since it uses "indirect display" technology called DisplayLink -- not to be confused with DisplayPort. DisplayLink has a lot of disadvantages that I wrote about in the post marked as the answer in this thread. But honestly I'm not even sure what you're trying to do anymore. First you asked about adding a USB-C port to your XPS 13, which wasn't possible. Then you asked a bunch of questions about new laptops, which is when you said "last question". THEN after I suggested an MST hub as a way to run multiple displays from your current laptop, you asked me a question about an audio issue you had. And now even though it sounds like you bought the MST hub to run multiple displays, it sounds like you're still looking at a docking station? And for some reason you're looking at a dual system docking station, even though it sounds like you only have one system, AND you want to know if you can somehow use that docking station and a WD19TB at the same time, and presumably also your new MST hub at the same time?
This just doesn't make any sense to me anymore. The idea of the MST hub was to get that instead of a dock, since your XPS 13 9343 doesn't support a full docking station, but the MST hub would let you use multiple displays with that system. So I don't really understand why you bought the MST hub if you're now still thinking about a dock. And the StarTech docking station you found has the drawbacks related to DisplayLink, which has the problems I described in the thread. It also won't charge your system, which is why I don't consider it a full docking station. And I also don't know why you would want to use that dock and the WD19TB simultaneously -- but that's because like I already said, at this point I don't even understand what you are still trying to achieve. I thought the goal here was to help you run multiple displays from your laptop. You can now do that with the MST hub. I don't understand why the WD19TB is now involved in this discussion, or what you hope to achieve with the StarTech dual system dock, or why you're asking about how to use them simultaneously.
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@sunnybabu Ok, that helps. Unfortunately you don't have a great solution here, but you might be able to improve it somewhat. First, the dual PC docking station doesn't appear to support triple displays, even if DisplayLink's drawbacks were acceptable to you, so I don't think that would help much. And your XPS 13 9343 doesn't support a full docking station for easy swapping with another system. And even if you were willing to spend money on a KVM to connect your XPS 13 to one input bank of the KVM and your WD19TB to the other bank in order to swap displays and peripherals back and forth by pushing a button, the KVM models that support triple displays are rare and pretty expensive. Even the ones that support high resolution dual displays are fairly expensive.
The ideal would be to replace your XPS 13 9343 with a system that can connect to the WD19TB, if that's what you're already using for your other laptop. But if you can't do that, then one setup you COULD try is this:
If the MST hub actually works through the WD19TB -- which again I'm not 100% sure about -- the solution above is probably the easiest way to switch your displays and USB devices between the WD19TB and your XPS. Good luck.
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@jphughan Yes I’m thinking to upgrade my laptop to new XPS13 with usbc And the other one is also Dell latitude with usbc, so both can be connected to the same WD19 simultaneously is it ?
Thx
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@sunnybabu No, you cannot have multiple systems connected to the WD19 dock models simultaneously. Having a newer system would just allow you to use that dock with your newer system, but you would have to use your systems one at a time. I have not seen any type of adapter or switch device that allows you to connect multiple systems to the same USB-C/Thunderbolt dock and toggle between them as needed. You have to physically move the dock cable from one system to the other as needed.
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@sunnybabu Those are just 1080p 144 Hz displays. For some reason I thought you were looking at 1440p 144 Hz displays. I personally would not recommend a 27" 1080p display. Having only 1080p resolution spread out over a 27" display creates a very low pixel density (81 pixels per inch, or ppi), which can make text look grainy. Windows itself was designed around a "reference" display standard of 96 pixels per inch, just for reference. The main reason to use 27" 1080p displays is with relatively low-end gaming systems. The reason is that you get a fairly large display, but maintaining the lower resolution keeps your GPU performance requirements lower. Of course you could run a higher-resolution display at a lower resolution and achieve the same result, but higher-resolution displays cost more, and running displays below their native resolution can cause scaling artifacts. But if you're using an XPS 13, I'm guessing you're not planning to do a whole lot of serious gaming. If you plan to use these displays for productivity, or really anything that involves text, I would strongly recommend that you either use 24" 1080p displays (94 ppi) or 27" 1440p displays (108 ppi). Both of those will give you noticeably crisper text.
But if you really want to get one of those displays, the main differences seem to be that the S2721HS is flat and only supports AMD FreeSync, whereas the S2721HGF is curved and supports both FreeSync and NVIDIA G-Sync. But I personally don't see the point of a curve on a regular 27" 16:9 display, and the XPS 13 won't be able to use G-Sync or FreeSync, so that doesn't make a difference. In terms of which would work better, I would expect them to work exactly the same, and I'd recommend connecting both of them to the DisplayPort outputs of the dock.
If you decide to consider other displays based on my advice earlier, I don't personally have experience working with 144 Hz displays and I haven't personally confirmed that the Intel Xe GPU supports 144 Hz at ANY resolution. I know it can do 120 Hz, but I'm not sure about 144 Hz. However, looking purely at bandwidth requirements, dual 1080p 144 Hz is easily achievable through a Thunderbolt 3 dock from that system. If you want to look at dual 1440p 144 Hz, I think that is slightly above what is achievable through a WD19TB from an HBR3 system like the XPS 13 9310, based on a conversation I had with another user here after they tried it, but that same user confirmed that he WAS able to run dual 1440p at 120 Hz, if that would be acceptable to you. And a 144 Hz display can certainly be run at 120 Hz. (Ironically a Thunderbolt HBR2 system was able to run dual 1440p 144 Hz through a WD19TB, but the reason that was possible even though it wasn't possible through an HBR3 system is a bit complicated because it involves how DisplayPort HBR lanes work and how the WD19TB allocates them, so I don't really want to get into that.)
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@jphughan Hope you are doing well.
So i bought a new 11th gen XPS 13 with i7 and going to use my dell dock WD19TB connected to the following 2 monitors. Can you please advise if 2 of these 144hz monitors can be served up by WD19
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-S2721HGF-Ultra-Thin-DisplayPort-Certified/dp/B08DW4D6HP/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=dell%2Bcurved%2B27%2Binch&qid=1622580649&sr=8-3&th=1#customerReviews
I was also thinking abt the below monitors, as such can you please advise which monitors would be best with my dock and XPS13
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08HPML3R3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
As Always Many Thanks
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@jphughan Thank you sir. My requirements are that I need to visualize quite a few charts at 1minute interval real-time data and different colors etc., so screen real estate is a concern, hence was thinking for 27 as opposed to 24 inches. So based on your input you are ok with this S2721HS Compared to curved or is there any better one ?
As Always Thanks
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@sunnybabu If real estate is the concern, then you can't just increase screen size. A 24" 1080p display will show the same content as a 27" 1080p display. The 27" will just make it larger. So yes a 1440p display is a good idea, but the display you linked is a 4K display. With that display you will very likely need to enable scaling to keep things a reasonable size, because a 27" 4K display has a pixel density of 163 ppi. Is there any particular reason you are looking at Dell's S Series of displays? Those are meant for gaming, and therefore they have features that are relevant to gaming, like G-Sync/FreeSync and things. But if you're just looking at data, you are paying for features you don't need and probably missing out on other features that might actually be useful to you. Look at Dell's P Series and U Series displays. Those are the product lines meant for businesses and therefore they have features such as height-adjustable stands, USB ports to connect peripherals, daisy chaining support, etc. For example, you could get a U2722DE, which is a 27" 1440p display with a USB-C input that could be used with an XPS 13 9310. It essentially has a built-in docking station, even including built-in Ethernet. And if you wanted a second display, you could get a U2722D (not DE), which is essentially the same display without the USB-C input and Ethernet port, since you don't need that on both displays. And then you could daisy chain the U2722D to the U2722DE, so you would still only need a single USB-C cable to connect your XPS 13 9310 to the U2722DE, and that cable would be able to run BOTH displays, and carry power to the XPS, and carry USB data to use the USB ports built into the display.
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@jphughan @You are right, not for gaming just business and all that I need is what u stated adjustable stand + display port and stuff like that. I do already have Dell dock WD19, so just need two 27” monitors. U2722D seem bit over budget for me, also since I already have dock I guess I can save some dollars by going bit lower around like in $250’s. Any recommendations please.
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@jphughan Thank you sir. My requirements are that I need to visualize quite a few charts at 1minute interval real-time data and different colors etc., so screen real estate is a concern, hence was thinking for 27 as opposed to 24 inches. So based on your input to go for 27" 1440p displays compared to S2721HS does the below sounds reasonable, as I sit at least 8 hrs constantly staring at screen, I wanted something that reduces eye strain as well
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08DQWG3JG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
As Always Thanks
raj
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@sunnybabu You may want to take a look at Dell's own store. Here is a link to their recent 27" 1440p displays in the P and U Series lines. Even if some of these are no longer available through Dell, you might find them available through other sellers. And yes if you've already got a dock, then you don't need a display with built-in USB-C.